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« on: August 28, 2019, 01:28:10 AM »
« edited: August 28, 2019, 01:31:16 AM by Old School Republican »

Say the National GOP was more like blue avatars on here , would you be more likely to vote for them or not
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2019, 01:34:33 AM »

Well, it depends on which ones you are using as an example. A good number of blue avs on Atlas are exactly like the current Republican party.

say the average blue avatar
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 01:39:48 AM »

Well, it depends on which ones you are using as an example. A good number of blue avs on Atlas are exactly like the current Republican party.

say the average blue avatar

What is the average? Most overall posts? Stands out the most? The Median ideology among all of them?

A sample user would be great to help gauge it.

Say someone like ThatConservativeGuy(Though I dont know if he is the median anymore) ,  or maybe someone like DavidB.


During the 2016 cycle I would say the median would have been Sunrise or RFayette but thats not really the case anymore



Let say Media Ideology
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 01:04:32 PM »

Well, it depends on which ones you are using as an example. A good number of blue avs on Atlas are exactly like the current Republican party.

say the average blue avatar

What is the average? Most overall posts? Stands out the most? The Median ideology among all of them?

A sample user would be great to help gauge it.

Say someone like ThatConservativeGuy(Though I dont know if he is the median anymore) ,  or maybe someone like DavidB.

Wait, really? The median has gone that far to right? I'm even more out of touch than I realized...

I don’t consider DavidB to be  far right though , he is significantly to the left of all the president GOP on issues not relating to immigration
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2019, 03:31:51 PM »

95% of Atlas Rs can be put in one of three categories, all of which are terrible:

1. Trump wannabes
2. Religious fundamentalists
3. Robotic hacks

So no, I wouldn't be more likely to vote for them compared to Trump's GOP. Less likely even if they're like #2.
I don't think I fit any of those. Does that put me in the other 5%? Smiley
Yeah you're cool in my book. Then again I don't really know what your views are, I just know you like travelling a lot.

Thanks. You now know my view on universal health care, too. I spent 6 years as the cochair of the Green Caucus in IL. On voter access I was the architect of Automatic Voter Registration in IL. In 2011 I worked with both MALDEF and the Ohio Black Legislative Caucus on fair redistricting. Illiniwek can tell you about Dems supporting me despite my party.

As I previously stated Muon2 is an individual who if he were to run for elected office in whatever state I might be living, would well consider voting for because of principled policy positions, and an individual who carefully and thoughtfully examines the issues at hand, and although I might disagree with on some issues, can and will represent the interests of his constituents and generally in a Progressive direction.

When I was a child in Oregon we had a legendary Republican Senator Mark Hatfield:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hatfield

As a Man only a few Years Younger than my Maternal Grandfather, he fought against the Fascists in the Asian Theater, was one of the first Americans to witness the devastation caused by the American nuclear bomb dropped in Hiroshima.

He was an Evangelical Baptist and it influenced his views from the Death Penalty, to Abortion, to Unjust Foreign Wars, although he did not wear his faith on his sleeve for political opportunities....

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christian-faith-mark-hatfield_b_921230

In 1953 he introduced a bill in the Oregon State Legislature to ban discrimination based upon race in Public Accommodations, in a State with a deep racist history of "red-lining" (As was the case with many other Northern States).

Now although Mark Hatfield has his flaws, perhaps when it came to being too cozy with the Timber Industry at a time where 40% of Oregon's economy was directly tied to Timber related employment, he was a Progressive Republican.

We need more Republicans such as Mark Hatfield, but with a "Modern" perspective that carefully address the issues in our land, and unfortunately few current Atlas Republican posters can come close to meeting the call.....

Mark Hatfield was a truly great Senator.  The problem with Hatfield was that, in life, he was anti-abortion, so that would relegate him to Pond Scum status.

At my deepest core, I probably identify as a pro-life Democrat who became a moderate Republican.  Mark Hatfield, Jacob Javits, and Clifford Case were those kind of Republicans.  Unfortunately, they don't exist today.  Even a moderate Republican like George Voinovich would be persona non grata in today's GOP.

Today's parties reflect a statement that I believe it was from Clifford Case.  Case once said that moderate progressives would need to work together to find moderate progressive solutions to the problems that America faced.  Case also warned that if the solutions to America's problems were not solved by America's progressives, then the solutions would be provided by the extremes of the political spectrum, and that would not be a good thing. 

I don't think it's hard for people to see Case's prediction coming to pass.  What worries me is that too many people think that the extremes coming up with solutions is a good thing.  The desire for extreme solutions by today's partisans is one reason we have the extreme parties we now have. 


I think a Bob Packwood without his scandals would be better .  He worked with both parties to pass the 1986 tax reform bill which got massive amount of bipartisan support . Sadly he was a terrible person but if we could get someone like him without all his personal flaws , that person would easily  be one of the best senators.
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