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« on: July 11, 2019, 01:07:32 AM »
« edited: July 11, 2019, 01:12:19 AM by Old School Republican »

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .


Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .




Tucker has said horrible and racist things many times before but him saying Omar holds contempt for this nation is not one of them
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 01:20:56 AM »

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .


Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .

Just to be clear, this is the quote of hers which he responded to with his racist rant:

Quote from: Ilhan Omar
"I grew up in an extremely unjust society, and the only thing that made my family excited about coming to the United States was that the United States was supposed to be the country that guaranteed justice to all. So, I feel it necessary for me to speak about that promise that's not kept."

She said she loves America & wants us to live up to our potential. This isn't contempt for our nation. It's patriotism.

Ok Tucker using that quote was dumb but she has past quotes to prove she has contempt for this nation


In a tweet which was about the worst terrorist attacked in Somalian history she said that the US troops committed the biggest attack . She has countless more examples showing her contempt of this nation

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 01:24:43 AM »
« Edited: July 11, 2019, 01:32:05 AM by Old School Republican »

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .
She is a CITIZEN just like you, so she can criticize all she wants. Please take this James Baldwin quote to heart: "I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually." She sounds like a true patriot to me.

Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .
Did they or didn't they though? You talk about it like America is OBVIOUSLY innocent of any overseas wrongdoings, which is clearly not the case. America has been killing innocent civilians abroad for decades now. Are you just a good little military worshipping Republican puppet, or do you think for yourself occasionally?

Calling it a terrorist attack is downright lying and shows her contempt for this nation . Yes she has the right to say anything including comments what show that she is ungrateful as well.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 01:33:52 AM »

Her comments about 9/11 are another disgusting example of her showing contempt for this nation . She really does idolize absolutely terrible  people like  Corbyn 
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 01:45:18 AM »

Her comments about 9/11 are another disgusting example of her showing contempt for this nation . She really does idolize absolutely terrible  people like  Corbyn  
Shake my head...

That "9/11" thing was PROVEN to be taken out of context of her entire speech she was giving dude. You know this. If you don't you can look up the FULL comments. It's not a matter of opinion.

You're engaging in conformation bias. You've first decided that Omar is guilty, and now secondly you cherry pick some information and downplay other info in order to arrive at that conclusion. This is dangerous thinking and can lead to Flat Earth belief and brainwashing. Rational thought and rational argument are done with the steps in reverse. You examine the evidence FIRST in order to secondly arrive at a conclusion that is actually supported by the evidence.

How can we have a rational debate if you've already decided that the facts are secondary to your narrative?

The full comments in the Somalia case made her comments far worse and in the 9/11 didnt make them any better.


Also I would say you are engaging in this
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 01:46:16 AM »

https://www.apnews.com/b49ee5604ec2435a90945820b7c973eb
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 01:50:06 AM »

Imagine being an American citizen for 19 years & still being labeled as un-American & unpatriotic smh

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .


Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .

Just to be clear, this is the quote of hers which he responded to with his racist rant:

Quote from: Ilhan Omar
"I grew up in an extremely unjust society, and the only thing that made my family excited about coming to the United States was that the United States was supposed to be the country that guaranteed justice to all. So, I feel it necessary for me to speak about that promise that's not kept."

She said she loves America & wants us to live up to our potential. This isn't contempt for our nation. It's patriotism.

Ok Tucker using that quote was dumb but she has past quotes to prove she has contempt for this nation


In a tweet which was about the worst terrorist attacked in Somalian history she said that the US troops committed the biggest attack . She has countless more examples showing her contempt of this nation

No, she didn't say that American troops committed the biggest terrorist attack in Somalian history. The actual context was that Al Franken tweeted "Devastating news that the terrorist attack in Somalia has now claimed the lives of at least 230; the worst attack in the country's history," which somebody replied to by saying, "Actually, the worst terrorist attack in Somalia history was the Battle of Mogadishu- 19 US armed forces dead and 73 wounded," prompting somebody else to reply, ""All lives matter" even though 230 is more than 10 times 19," to which she replied, "In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day! #NotTodaySatan"... so no, she wasn't criticizing American forces; she was simply commenting on how somebody else had shown a complete disregard for the lives of innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the Black Hawk Down operation.




That literally is her implying that American Troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia In that case context makes things far worse for her not better.


Oh and there are other anti-Americans in Congress such as Steve King and if Roy Moore won he would have been an Anti-American senator .
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 01:53:39 AM »

... Tucker ... is ... a truth talking, intelligent, good hearted, accurate, and talented reporter.

Fixed. Fixed. Fixed.

Conservative derangement syndrome strikes again!



Tucker said this though: https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/12/14/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-immigration-making-america-dirtier/23618050/


These are racist and he should have apologized for making them. He could have  said why he disagrees with current immigration policy without going in a racist direction like he did here
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 01:57:29 AM »

Imagine being an American citizen for 19 years & still being labeled as un-American & unpatriotic smh

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .


Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .

Just to be clear, this is the quote of hers which he responded to with his racist rant:

Quote from: Ilhan Omar
"I grew up in an extremely unjust society, and the only thing that made my family excited about coming to the United States was that the United States was supposed to be the country that guaranteed justice to all. So, I feel it necessary for me to speak about that promise that's not kept."

She said she loves America & wants us to live up to our potential. This isn't contempt for our nation. It's patriotism.

Ok Tucker using that quote was dumb but she has past quotes to prove she has contempt for this nation


In a tweet which was about the worst terrorist attacked in Somalian history she said that the US troops committed the biggest attack . She has countless more examples showing her contempt of this nation

No, she didn't say that American troops committed the biggest terrorist attack in Somalian history. The actual context was that Al Franken tweeted "Devastating news that the terrorist attack in Somalia has now claimed the lives of at least 230; the worst attack in the country's history," which somebody replied to by saying, "Actually, the worst terrorist attack in Somalia history was the Battle of Mogadishu- 19 US armed forces dead and 73 wounded," prompting somebody else to reply, ""All lives matter" even though 230 is more than 10 times 19," to which she replied, "In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day! #NotTodaySatan"... so no, she wasn't criticizing American forces; she was simply commenting on how somebody else had shown a complete disregard for the lives of innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the Black Hawk Down operation.




That literally is her implying that American Troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia In that case context makes things far worse for her not better.


Oh and there are other anti-Americans in Congress such as Steve King

No. It's not. If you, y'know, literally took 1 second to look into the facts of what went down during that 1993 Black Hawk Down military operation in Mogadishu, then you would know that (& understand that what she's referring to is that) there were many innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the operation, & that she (unlike the person she was responding to) wasn't disregarding their lives as well. That's not the same thing as implying it was a terrorist attack though, let alone calling it one, & she's not the one who did, so stop acting as if it was her who did because, again, it wasn't.


No you are wrong here:


The original tweet was talking about what was the biggest terrorist attack in Somalia history and so was the Franklin Tweet responding to it then Omar responded by saying " In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day!" .

It cant get any clearer
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 02:04:38 AM »


No they aren't, I completely agree with what he said. The very biased article makes it sound like he was talking about immigrants in general when he was obviously talking specifically about illegal immigrants. Maybe you should rethink your sources?

Maybe he should have said the caravans shouldnt be allowed in , and the policy. In the video, He wasnt talking about Illegal immigration he was talking about immigration in general.  And why use the term " dirtier" in the first place.  Even when talking about illegal immigration you dont need to say that, you can just say we need to be tough on illegal immigration.

Also Tucker had this in the past as well: https://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/tucker_carlsons_amazingly_stupid_tweet_says_mitts_criticism_about_trumps_kkk_stance_was_something_obama_could_have_written/


There are much better conservative commentators than him
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 02:06:40 AM »

Imagine being an American citizen for 19 years & still being labeled as un-American & unpatriotic smh

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .


Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .

Just to be clear, this is the quote of hers which he responded to with his racist rant:

Quote from: Ilhan Omar
"I grew up in an extremely unjust society, and the only thing that made my family excited about coming to the United States was that the United States was supposed to be the country that guaranteed justice to all. So, I feel it necessary for me to speak about that promise that's not kept."

She said she loves America & wants us to live up to our potential. This isn't contempt for our nation. It's patriotism.

Ok Tucker using that quote was dumb but she has past quotes to prove she has contempt for this nation


In a tweet which was about the worst terrorist attacked in Somalian history she said that the US troops committed the biggest attack . She has countless more examples showing her contempt of this nation

No, she didn't say that American troops committed the biggest terrorist attack in Somalian history. The actual context was that Al Franken tweeted "Devastating news that the terrorist attack in Somalia has now claimed the lives of at least 230; the worst attack in the country's history," which somebody replied to by saying, "Actually, the worst terrorist attack in Somalia history was the Battle of Mogadishu- 19 US armed forces dead and 73 wounded," prompting somebody else to reply, ""All lives matter" even though 230 is more than 10 times 19," to which she replied, "In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day! #NotTodaySatan"... so no, she wasn't criticizing American forces; she was simply commenting on how somebody else had shown a complete disregard for the lives of innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the Black Hawk Down operation.




That literally is her implying that American Troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia In that case context makes things far worse for her not better.


Oh and there are other anti-Americans in Congress such as Steve King

No. It's not. If you, y'know, literally took 1 second to look into the facts of what went down during that 1993 Black Hawk Down military operation in Mogadishu, then you would know that (& understand that what she's referring to is that) there were many innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the operation, & that she (unlike the person she was responding to) wasn't disregarding their lives as well. That's not the same thing as implying it was a terrorist attack though, let alone calling it one, & she's not the one who did, so stop acting as if it was her who did because, again, it wasn't.


No you are wrong here:


The original tweet was talking about what was the biggest terrorist attack in Somalia history and so was the Franklin Tweet responding to it then Omar responded by saying " In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day!" .

It cant get any clearer

I legitimately quoted the entirety of the relevant twitter theard within my earlier reply, so, in actuality, it can't get any clearer than that really.


And the twitter thread was what I was addressing and thats exactly what was talked about


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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 02:13:24 AM »

Imagine being an American citizen for 19 years & still being labeled as un-American & unpatriotic smh

Don’t like Tucker at all but he is correct In that  Omar has contempt for this nation . She  has proven time and time again that she is an completely ungrateful person who dislikes the nation who gave her a much better life .


Remember she once implied that the US troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia in 93 .

Just to be clear, this is the quote of hers which he responded to with his racist rant:

Quote from: Ilhan Omar
"I grew up in an extremely unjust society, and the only thing that made my family excited about coming to the United States was that the United States was supposed to be the country that guaranteed justice to all. So, I feel it necessary for me to speak about that promise that's not kept."

She said she loves America & wants us to live up to our potential. This isn't contempt for our nation. It's patriotism.

Ok Tucker using that quote was dumb but she has past quotes to prove she has contempt for this nation


In a tweet which was about the worst terrorist attacked in Somalian history she said that the US troops committed the biggest attack . She has countless more examples showing her contempt of this nation

No, she didn't say that American troops committed the biggest terrorist attack in Somalian history. The actual context was that Al Franken tweeted "Devastating news that the terrorist attack in Somalia has now claimed the lives of at least 230; the worst attack in the country's history," which somebody replied to by saying, "Actually, the worst terrorist attack in Somalia history was the Battle of Mogadishu- 19 US armed forces dead and 73 wounded," prompting somebody else to reply, ""All lives matter" even though 230 is more than 10 times 19," to which she replied, "In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day! #NotTodaySatan"... so no, she wasn't criticizing American forces; she was simply commenting on how somebody else had shown a complete disregard for the lives of innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the Black Hawk Down operation.




That literally is her implying that American Troops committed a terrorist attack in Somalia In that case context makes things far worse for her not better.


Oh and there are other anti-Americans in Congress such as Steve King

No. It's not. If you, y'know, literally took 1 second to look into the facts of what went down during that 1993 Black Hawk Down military operation in Mogadishu, then you would know that (& understand that what she's referring to is that) there were many innocent Somalis caught in the crossfire of the operation, & that she (unlike the person she was responding to) wasn't disregarding their lives as well. That's not the same thing as implying it was a terrorist attack though, let alone calling it one, & she's not the one who did, so stop acting as if it was her who did because, again, it wasn't.


No you are wrong here:


The original tweet was talking about what was the biggest terrorist attack in Somalia history and so was the Franklin Tweet responding to it then Omar responded by saying " In his selective memory, he forgets to also mention the thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day!" .

It cant get any clearer

I legitimately quoted the entirety of the relevant twitter theard within my earlier reply, so, in actuality, it can't get any clearer than that really.


And the twitter thread was what I was addressing and thats exactly what was talked about

Yes, but in addressing it, you were mischaracterizing what she said as a result of having ignored the full context.

No I am the one considering all the context
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2019, 02:23:29 AM »
« Edited: July 11, 2019, 02:27:43 AM by Old School Republican »

I'm hoping to see MANY more hijab-wearing progressive congresswomen and senators. The deplorables are getting SO worked up over just Omar. Give them 3 or 4 at the same time and their heads might explode.

Agreed I want Dems to have progressives like Biden and not Socialists . Just like I want GOP to have Conservatives like Romney and not Right Wing Populists like Trump .


In the UK I would much rather Have Sadiq Khan be Labour Leader than Jermey Corbyn
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2019, 02:33:10 AM »

I'm hoping to see MANY more hijab-wearing progressive congresswomen and senators. The deplorables are getting SO worked up over just Omar. Give them 3 or 4 at the same time and their heads might explode.

Agreed I want Dems to have progressives like Biden and not Socialists . Just like I want GOP to have Conservatives like Romney and not Right Wing Populists like Trump
Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton are center-left corporate establishment puppets, and the puppet masters are happy with their current arrangement. Therefore, do not want the country to progress beyond it (progressive = progress). When his rich and corporate donors tell Biden to jump through the hoop on command, he asks "how high?". That isn't a progressive. I'm not gonna address your use if the S word.


Hilariously bad take , because Reagan and Thatcher also wanted to progress beyond the Keynesian Dominated Era into a Neo-Liberal one.


Just cause progressive has progress in it doesnt mean progress=progressive lol
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2019, 02:45:41 AM »

I'm hoping to see MANY more hijab-wearing progressive congresswomen and senators. The deplorables are getting SO worked up over just Omar. Give them 3 or 4 at the same time and their heads might explode.

Agreed I want Dems to have progressives like Biden and not Socialists . Just like I want GOP to have Conservatives like Romney and not Right Wing Populists like Trump
Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton are center-left corporate establishment puppets, and the puppet masters are happy with their current arrangement. Therefore, do not want the country to progress beyond it (progressive = progress). When his rich and corporate donors tell Biden to jump through the hoop on command, he asks "how high?". That isn't a progressive. I'm not gonna address your use if the S word.


Hilariously bad take , because Reagan and Thatcher also wanted to progress beyond the Keynesian Dominated Era into a Neo-Liberal one.


Just cause progressive has progress in it doesnt mean progress=progressive lol



Let's steer this back in topic a bit.

You claim that Omar is an ungrateful American and that Tucker is a racist but correct on this particular case. What should be done with Omar? Should the Democratic Party eject her from her seat? Should more Republicans confront her directly about this? Shoud  local Republicans protest her in Minnesota when she does public appearances?

She should be stripped of any committee assignments relating to Foreign Policy or National Security and then the Dems should back a primary challenge against her 
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2019, 03:23:39 PM »

Do you acknowledge that you have extremely fascist (un-American) views that are in direct opposition to the Constitution and Declaration of Independance? It's a free country and I respect your right to those beliefs. I just want you to either own up to it or I want you to admit that you're a coward hiding behind "patriotism".



This crossed the line.

Agreed , I despise Omar in every way and think she does have contempt for this nation but she has the right to have contempt for this nation and saying she should be deported for that is pretty deplorable.

On the other hand just cause she has the right to say something and have ceritan beliefs that doesnt be she should have those beliefs, and for that she should be primaried and hopefully by January 2021 she becomes a FORMER Congresswomen
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2019, 08:35:30 PM »

Democrats need to remember what made Obama the incredible candidate he was. On the campaign trail in 2008, Obama's speeches were filled with soaring, romantic rhetoric about America, about the exceptional opportunities America provided, and how he viewed the Democratic vision as a fulfillment of the heroic American narrative. His America was flawed, but striving ever upward by virtue of the indelible character of its institutions, ideals, and individuals.

Today, left-wing Democrats sound more like an evangelical firebrand excoriating their cowed flock with a litany of their sins. Their America was born depraved and, like a man seeking his own justification, can never truly atone for that original trespass. Their Democratic vision replaces the American narrative, an old story in a ragged book better off burnt in their passion's flames. Their America is flawed beyond repair, shackled by the irredeemable character of its institutions, ideals, and individuals.

Both Obama and these current left-wing Democrats desire changes to America, but one came from a place of love for a country they were permanently indebted to, while the other comes from a place of contempt for a country they believe can never pay them back.

One of these messages was successful. The other will not be.

This.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 02:47:09 AM »

OSR is still foaming at the mouth over Ilhan Omar? Seriously man get over yourself.

And many leftist posters on here constantly post about idiotic and deplorable comments made by a random Republican State legislator. This is and the AOC thread about Evita Peron proved that you guys are a bunch of HYPOCRITES as well and will defend anything as long as that politician is a left wing populist like AOC and Omar.

Politics needs more people like  President Johnson on the Left and Sunrise on the right(And their are thankfully a good amount of posters on both sides who are like them on here). They actaully are people who are principled , carry more about policy than rhetoric and are willing to call out members of their own "side" .


I am so tired of people on both sides defending obvious terrible comments , or terrible people on their side just because that politican is on their "team".


This is not Sports guys , the Republicans and the Democrats are not some team you are supposed to blindly follow



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