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« on: March 11, 2019, 09:18:25 PM »

Man if only Crowley took the primary challenge seriously
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2019, 03:24:15 PM »

Even Dems think FDR is bad, he is so overrated


Maybe AOC should have lived under Carter's incompetence or Mondale's immense tax increases, then maybe she would know what to support and what not to

wow, a traveller from an alternative dimension! how did you stumble into our humble universe?

1984 Dem Convention

"Mr. Reagan will raise your taxes and so will I [I will raise them so high that] I will cut the Reagan budget deficit in 2/3rds


The way you phrased it sounded like you were saying Mondale was President
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2019, 03:34:11 PM »

There was plenty of racism in the New Deal, but obviously it still helped blacks for blacks to start voting Democratic in 1936.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Correct answer!

Criticizing the New Deal as racist because of the redlining it included is like criticizing the Emancipation Proclamation as racist because it didn't also include an active affirmative action Federal hiring program. Revolutionary for its time even if behind the times by modern standards.

Furthermore, redlining was a practice even before the 1930s. It particularly exploded in the post-war housing boom.

Badger, genuinely curious when the last time you would have been comfortable as a Republican.  I call myself a RINO in jest, but ... if you are fully in line FDR in the 1930s, there surely wasn't some magical come to Jesus moment recently for ya.

The only elections where it seems like Badger would have supported the Republican since 1932 was in 1952,1956,1976  .

On the issue of being comfortable with FDR well if you take it in the context of times I think many of us Blue avatars would be . I would probably have been a Democrat from like 1930-1952. Hoover’s Presidency would have turned me off from the GOP for quite some time till around 1952(like it did with much of the nation as well). I also wouldn’t be comfortable with the conservative wing of the party till the conservative wing had transitioned from the full on libertarian Style Conservativism that Taft embodied to the Modern Conservative movement people like Buckley , Friedman and Reagan embodied .


To me the reason why I don’t think you can say Badger is a Republican in any sort is due to his support of ApC and many of her policies . Not even the most Rockefeller Republican would be in support of those policies


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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2019, 03:44:13 PM »


So Trump is your king and AOC is your Queen Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2019, 03:46:46 PM »

There was plenty of racism in the New Deal, but obviously it still helped blacks for blacks to start voting Democratic in 1936.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Correct answer!

Criticizing the New Deal as racist because of the redlining it included is like criticizing the Emancipation Proclamation as racist because it didn't also include an active affirmative action Federal hiring program. Revolutionary for its time even if behind the times by modern standards.

Furthermore, redlining was a practice even before the 1930s. It particularly exploded in the post-war housing boom.

Badger, genuinely curious when the last time you would have been comfortable as a Republican.  I call myself a RINO in jest, but ... if you are fully in line FDR in the 1930s, there surely wasn't some magical come to Jesus moment recently for ya.

The only elections where it seems like Badger would have supported the Republican since 1932 was in 1952,1956,1976  .

On the issue of being comfortable with FDR well if you take it in the context of times I think many of us Blue avatars would be . I would probably have been a Democrat from like 1930-1952. Hoover’s Presidency would have turned me off from the GOP for quite some time till around 1952(like it did with much of the nation as well). I also wouldn’t be comfortable with the conservative wing of the party till the conservative wing had transitioned from the full on libertarian Style Conservativism that Taft embodied to the Modern Conservative movement people like Buckley , Friedman and Reagan embodied .


To me the reason why I don’t think you can say Badger is a Republican in any sort is due to his support of ApC and many of her policies . Not even the most Rockefeller Republican would be in support of those policies




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Rockefeller’s meter began to spin soon after he became governor of New York in 1959, and it accelerated as time went on. To be sure, every level of American government was expanding during the 1960s and 1970s. But Rockefeller made an outlier of the Empire State. He quadrupled the state budget and quintupled state debt, including off-the-books public-authority borrowing. He created the nation’s most lavish Medicaid program, designed to draw down maximum federal aid to the state while saddling New York City and county governments with half the non-federally reimbursed cost. He pushed through a collective bargaining law that would bequeath to New Yorkers the nation’s highest level of public-sector unionization. Though New York had been a cradle of open-handed liberalism, its state and local taxes, relative to personal income, were slightly below the national average when Rockefeller took office, according to Census data. By 1974, the combined burden had nearly doubled to a level well above the 50-state norm—where it has remained ever since

https://www.city-journal.org/html/hiya-big-spender-9844.html


I know that but AOC policies are well to the left of that
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