IceSpear was right!

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On Immigration it truly depends. Low skilled and Illegal Immigration Immigration Benefits Rural Areas far more than Suburban Areas , while High Skilled Immigration benefits Suburban Areas far more than Rural Areas.


Also rural areas are necessarily more anti-immigrant than Suburban Areas, so for example if you consider prop 187 anti-immigrant(I dont) it was Orange County where that prop oriented : https://www.ocregister.com/2014/11/08/20-years-after-prop-187-oc-group-that-helped-create-it-is-pushing-for-same-goals/


In 2006 During the Immigration Debate it was Duncan Hunter and Republicans from Border Counties that stopped it.



I would say Rural Areas are more socially conservative but really dont care about immigration, while Suburban Areas are more polarized on the issue



Lastly Its also not just Suburban CA that changed this is how CA changed as a whole since 2000:




Literally, almost all of CA has trended blue since 2000 and even in the Rural Areas Republicans cant perform the way how they used too back in 2000

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Romney/Clinton Suburbs may vote Bernie the first time but after 4 years if him would turn against him big time.

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Romney/Clinton Suburbs may vote Bernie the first time but after 4 years if him would turn against him big time.

Surely just like those populist obama trump voters in Missouri will switch back

A Better comparison is the Obama/Trump voters in MI/PA/WI/IA

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Lmao what? This is so f****** stupid. Wiki says Mahaska County has went Republican in every single Presidential election since 1968, Marion County in all but two (1976 and 1988). Gore lost these counties by 20 points. Does she seriously think these are the places which certain Democrats want to win back? That Sanders wants Democrats to win over conservative evangelical single issue abortion voters and people who actually care about opposing gay marriage? Christ. No wonder the Clinton campaign was such a trainwreck when they had these idiots organising for her.

Still, Mahaska County went from 59-39 in 2012 for Romney to 70-25 for Trump in 2016. And Marion County went from 56-42 in 2012 for Romney, to 62-31 for Trump in 2016.

These aren't counties that a democrat needs to win, but they certainly need to win back some of those rural voters and avoid being completely blown out.

So her overall hypothesis is still right, these counties are also full of Obama-Trump voters.

Bingo. In 2008 my wife and I housed and Obama field volunteer for several months who is assigned to the first and fourth most Republican voting counties in Ohio. There are persuadable voters in every Community. You're going to find arguably the same ratio in a 70/30 Republican County versus a 60/40 democratic County. Admittedly, even in the last 10 years things have changed where the name of the game is turn out more than persuasion, but even there there's still the issue of turning out vote the nearly half of Voters who don't show up at the polls but might like your guy.

Organizer never had any illusions of, LOL, winning either County. Our goal was to lose by no more than 40 in my own County, which we narrowly accomplished. You add these numbers up cross 88 counties, and that's what creates a Statewide win. Winning big numbers in Cleveland and Columbus aren't going to help if you get blown out 85/15 in a host of small counties as opposed to 70/30, which is exactly what happened in 2016 and, to a lesser degree, in 2018.

When was the last time you supported the Republican candidate for president