AMA - IceSpear

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- Why do you think West Virginia should vote Democratic if they were voting on economic reasons, I mean WV was controlled by Dems for more than 80 years up to 2014 so if any party deserves the blame for WV its the Dems not the GOP.

- Ronald Reagan or Robert Byrd(1980s Version)

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- Why do you think West Virginia should vote Democratic if they were voting on economic reasons, I mean WV was controlled by Dems for more than 80 years up to 2014 so if any party deserves the blame for WV its the Dems not the GOP.

- Ronald Reagan or Robert Byrd(1980s Version)

Well for one thing, federal policies tend to have a bigger impact on individual states than the state's policies do. With that said, WV's problems are/were largely unavoidable regardless of who was/is in control, but that doesn't change the fact that they'd be better off with an expanded social safety net, which is what the Democrats support and the GOP opposes.

With or without hindsight?

- Both with and without hindsight

- To be fair I can concede some of GOP policies wouldnt work in WV , but I think they need to implement a tax and regulatory structure which is as business-friendly as Texas and the Federal Government in return does an infrastructure project there. That I believe would help. The problem with the Dems is they dont wanna do that and plus they are anti coal as well so that makes their economic policies a negative for that state

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- Why do you think West Virginia should vote Democratic if they were voting on economic reasons, I mean WV was controlled by Dems for more than 80 years up to 2014 so if any party deserves the blame for WV its the Dems not the GOP.

- Ronald Reagan or Robert Byrd(1980s Version)

Well for one thing, federal policies tend to have a bigger impact on individual states than the state's policies do. With that said, WV's problems are/were largely unavoidable regardless of who was/is in control, but that doesn't change the fact that they'd be better off with an expanded social safety net, which is what the Democrats support and the GOP opposes.

With or without hindsight?

- Both with and without hindsight

- To be fair I can concede some of GOP policies wouldnt work in WV , but I think they need to implement a tax and regulatory structure which is as business-friendly as Texas and the Federal Government in return does an infrastructure project there. That I believe would help. The problem with the Dems is they dont wanna do that and plus they are anti coal as well so that makes their economic policies a negative for that state

Byrd with hindsight, who repented for his past and basically became a generic D in his final decades, along with the fact that I now see Reagan's destructive legacy. It's hard to mentally place myself in the 80s, but I definitely wouldn't have supported the KKK member who filibustered the Civil Rights Act. So Reagan.

Last Question:


- What would be your opinion of Pre 2008 Orange County, and the Suburbs during the 1980s

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- Why do you think West Virginia should vote Democratic if they were voting on economic reasons, I mean WV was controlled by Dems for more than 80 years up to 2014 so if any party deserves the blame for WV its the Dems not the GOP.

- Ronald Reagan or Robert Byrd(1980s Version)

Well for one thing, federal policies tend to have a bigger impact on individual states than the state's policies do. With that said, WV's problems are/were largely unavoidable regardless of who was/is in control, but that doesn't change the fact that they'd be better off with an expanded social safety net, which is what the Democrats support and the GOP opposes.

With or without hindsight?

- Both with and without hindsight

- To be fair I can concede some of GOP policies wouldnt work in WV , but I think they need to implement a tax and regulatory structure which is as business-friendly as Texas and the Federal Government in return does an infrastructure project there. That I believe would help. The problem with the Dems is they dont wanna do that and plus they are anti coal as well so that makes their economic policies a negative for that state

Byrd with hindsight, who repented for his past and basically became a generic D in his final decades, along with the fact that I now see Reagan's destructive legacy. It's hard to mentally place myself in the 80s, but I definitely wouldn't have supported the KKK member who filibustered the Civil Rights Act. So Reagan.

Last Question:


- What would be your opinion of Pre 2008 Orange County, and the Suburbs during the 1980s

I had no strong opinion on Orange County. To the extent I thought of it, it was as a bunch of delusional RINO Toms who are Democrats at heart that disagree with the GOP on mostly everything but still vote them because they wanted more tax cuts.

Not really since Orange County literally was the one who kickstarted the Reagan Revolution , was a hub of the John Birch Society, and even in the later where prop 187 was kickstarted. Orange County also was considered very socially conservative, and really were the place where the modern GOP was born.

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- Kasich or Bernie in 2016

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Who do you blame more for current shape of GOP:


- The Bush Years (which obliterated the trust the base had in the establishment and moved GOP from
A suburban party to a rural one )

- Rupert Murdoch (Fox News)

- Rush Limbaugh (Right wing talk radio)

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Who do you blame more for current shape of GOP:


- The Bush Years (which obliterated the trust the base had in the establishment and moved GOP from
A suburban party to a rural one )

- Rupert Murdoch (Fox News)

- Rush Limbaugh (Right wing talk radio)

Dubya's 2004 strategy was the proto Trump strategy. Pander to the base and to hell with everyone else. It worked. In fact, it worked better than his "compassionate conservative" campaign in 2000, as he actually won the most votes that time. The GOP base has no incentive to cater to anyone outside their base. From their perspective, when they do (McCain, Romney) they lose, and when they don't (Bush 2004, Trump) they win. Of course, those of us on this forum are a lot more politically sophisticated and realize it is very possible, actually probable, that Trump would've done worse than Romney in 2012 and Romney would've done better than Trump in 2016. But most voters don't think about nebulous concepts like "political environment." They see the base pander strategy as a winner and "mushy moderate" strategy as a loser.

Yah in many ways the day the GOP Establishment chose Bush over McCain they planted the seeds for Trump. With Bush the GOP started to abandon being a suburban party and move to become a Rural One(The 1980s ironically had opposite trends, Suburban Areas became more Republican, Rural less Republican).

And the Bush years then saw polarization in the nation skyrocket

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Which city's ruby-red suburban counties are you most excited to see turn blue?

I assume I can't pick ones that have already turned blue, right? And I'm assuming you mean in presidential elections. In that case...

Maricopa County, AZ
Hamilton County, IN
Dallas County, IA
Johnson County, KS
Kent County, MI
Delaware County, OH
Williamson County, TX
Tarrant County, TX
Chesterfield County, VA
Virginia Beach County, VA

I am surprised you didnt choose Orange County AKA Reagan Country as one of your picks. I mean the symbolism of the County that kickstarted the Reagan Revolution and the modern conservative movement going Blue in 2018 is just stunning

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Why do you believe "black people kneeling" is the #1 motivator of Republicans instead of issues like abortion and gun control when those issues have existed for decades and culturally conservative rural areas voted Republican long before Colin Kaerpernick played in the NFL?

They literally stopped caring about the Kneeling this year because Trump hasnt talked about it

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When is the last election you would have voted GOP (At the Presidential Level)

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When is the last election you would have voted GOP (At the Presidential Level)

1956

If I have to guess Eisenhower two elections and 1904 are probably the elections you would vote GOP since 1896.

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Opinion of this video :


https://youtu.be/7IS7W9XSoq8

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Opinion of this video :


https://youtu.be/7IS7W9XSoq8

I'm surprised they called Minnesota for Mondale with only 2% of precincts in. That could've easily ended up being wrong.

Yah lol, For NBC though it was the last state they called .


Best part about that video is watching solid dem states like MA and WV (at the time ) which you could argue were the definition of New Deal Coalition states were won by Reagan against a New Deal type Dem . You could argue that Reagan winning those two states was basically the final remnants of the old New Deal coalition being wiped away   

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Ojeda or Kasich if they were they only options in 2020

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Which state politics do you like more : 1980s California, 1980s Virginia or 1980s West Virginia

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Opinion on Baby Boomers impact on US politics


Also what do you think of this post(Not Mine but the guy who responded)

Nightmare scenario is this

Obama approvals down to the upper 20s low 30s in 2016.

Republicans lose Nothing while they gain Nevada Colorado

After 2016 that puts it as
Rep 56 Dem 44

Then in 2018 The republican president is as popular as Bush was in 2002 and Clinton in 1998
They gain Indiana, Missouri, Virginia,Ohio, Pennsilvania, Wisconson, Montana, West Virginia
Put it at
Rep 64 Dem 36

But the possibility of this happening are next to nothing  

LOL! The possibility of that happening is ZERO.
First of all, NO REPUBLICAN can win in 2016. Whether Hillary is the nominee or not.
Secondly, they won't gain Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Ohio. Not enough racist, old rednecks there.
Thirdly, a Republican president wouldn't be popular.

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How would you have voted in elections from 1896-1928

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How would you have voted in elections from 1896-1928

I'm of the opinion that "you" are nothing more than the sum of your own experiences. A version of me born in the 1800s would almost certainly bear very little resemblance to my current self, at least on a psychological level. So I can't confidently answer those questions. Unless you mean as my current self with hindsight.

Do current self without hindsight (So you don’t know things like the Depression happening, the Tea Pot Dome Scandal, or US entering WW1 in 1917 etc)



Reason asking that period is that period is the only one I think you would be a swing voter in


Before 1896: You would be a Republican and before that a Whig voter
1932-Present : Democratic every election except IKE’s two elections