How would a map look like if the parties platform was like this

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Democratic:

Supported Raising Taxes on anyone making more then 75k

Supports more government  regulations

Supports Single Payer Healthcare

Supports 15 dollar min wage

Supports repealing Taft-Hartley

Opposes Free Trade and is very protectionist

Opposes H1B visa  as they believe it harms workers

Supports major infrastructure spending in the rust belt ,Appalachia , and farming states

Isolationist foreign policy

Supports Green New Deal

Republicans:

Supports cutting business taxes (on all business just not corporate)

Supports cutting spending across the board to balance the budget

Supports an Affordable Care Act type healthcare system

Supports getting rid of regulations that harm small business

Supports Free Trade

Supports raising min wage to 10 dollars then adjust to inflation

Supports increasing amount of H1B visas

Supports a more interventionist foreign policy

Supports solving the issue of climate change by trying to encourage innovation and reducing price of alternative energy



On Social Issues it would be like this:

Southern Dem: Center-Right, Northern Dem: Leftist ; Southern Repub: Right Wing, Northern Repub: Center-Left

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Given that this is basically shifting half the democratic party to the republicans in exchange for a few WWC voters, not good for Democrats.

And I'm being generous.

With Dems being more socially conservative in the south wouldn't that take the issue if the table and they could possibly win those states . Also Dems would not lose New York and Illinois

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Given that this is basically shifting half the democratic party to the republicans in exchange for a few WWC voters, not good for Democrats.

And I'm being generous.

With Dems being more socially conservative in the south wouldn't that take the issue if the table and they could possibly win those states . Also Dems would not lose New York and Illinois

Or California and Massachusetts

Mass would definitely still be dem , I think Cali would only be lean dem though cause of their immigration stance

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I think this would be the map

GOP 280
Dem 258

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Anyway if we are going for the good old "Democratic Party led by Bernie sanders" vs "Republican Party led by Charlie Baker" then this is what a close election would roughly end up looking like:

Anyway it wouldn't be as different as you'd think. Republicans would improve their performance in the northeast enough to start winning some states. Meanwhile the democrats would improve their numbers with southern rural whites enough to start winning some of the states in the southeast coastal area.

Overall the main effect wouldn't be a completely alien map, but more of a less polarised map, with red states and blue states moving closer to the centre, while still remaining in their respective parties.

Oh yeah and the Midwest would still be a swing area.
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I agree that that is a reasonable close election map. However, this wouldn't be close.

1988 was only a landslide cause Bush was vp to a popular president in good times and Dukakis ran a horrible campaign.

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Given that this is basically shifting half the democratic party to the republicans in exchange for a few WWC voters, not good for Democrats.

And I'm being generous.

With Dems being more socially conservative in the south wouldn't that take the issue if the table and they could possibly win those states . Also Dems would not lose New York and Illinois

Or California and Massachusetts

Mass would definitely still be dem , I think Cali would only be lean dem though cause of their immigration stance

Massachusetts would be lean Dem, probably. Winnable for republicans, but Democrats would probably be slightly favored. California would be solid R. Hispanics and Asians would not be democratic, and college educated whites would shift heavily republican.

If you can tell this is basically 1980s Republicans vs 1960s Democrats

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Anyway if we are going for the good old "Democratic Party led by Bernie sanders" vs "Republican Party led by Charlie Baker" then this is what a close election would roughly end up looking like:

Anyway it wouldn't be as different as you'd think. Republicans would improve their performance in the northeast enough to start winning some states. Meanwhile the democrats would improve their numbers with southern rural whites enough to start winning some of the states in the southeast coastal area.

Overall the main effect wouldn't be a completely alien map, but more of a less polarised map, with red states and blue states moving closer to the centre, while still remaining in their respective parties.

Oh yeah and the Midwest would still be a swing area.
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I agree that that is a reasonable close election map. However, this wouldn't be close.

1988 was only a landslide cause Bush was vp to a popular president in good times and Dukakis ran a horrible campaign.

If you run a far-left candidate against a center/center left candidate, you will lose.

The GOP in this is not center left in any way : They support cutting taxes ,deregulation , cutting spending in every area , are pro free trade (which by the way was pushed by the GOP ) , and their position on the environment is not by more government regulation but by alternative energy companies .

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Cool link, New Democrats don't support literally Republican economic policies, though.

The republican party in this is slightly left of center. The democrats are far left. That's not a winning combination for Dems.

Maybe you do, but to the vast majority of voters these two parties proposed by the OP, are a mainstream right wing party and a mainstream left wing party.

Oh, yes, I remember how in the GOP debates they all were arguing over whether the minimum wage should be 10 dollars or 12. Wait, no. They weren't. This isn't mainstream left versus mainstream right outside of Vermont.

Dude this is one issue they are left on and the increase in min wage gets made up by major deregulation, corporate tax cuts , and cuts in welfare spending .

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Cool link, New Democrats don't support literally Republican economic policies, though.

The republican party in this is slightly left of center. The democrats are far left. That's not a winning combination for Dems.

Maybe you do, but to the vast majority of voters these two parties proposed by the OP, are a mainstream right wing party and a mainstream left wing party.

Oh, yes, I remember how in the GOP debates they all were arguing over whether the minimum wage should be 10 dollars or 12. Wait, no. They weren't. This isn't mainstream left versus mainstream right outside of Vermont.

Dude this is one issue they are left on and the increase in min wage gets made up by major deregulation, corporate tax cuts , and cuts in welfare spending .

I'm so sorry you missed 1993-2001. It must be a shame.

Dude being left on one issue doesnt make you center left


Trump opposed free trade- does that make him a leftist

and the min wage increase is not emphasized as much as tax cuts , spending cuts , deregulation.


And yes Bill Clinton was Center-Right after the 1994 elections , not center left.

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Cool link, New Democrats don't support literally Republican economic policies, though.

The republican party in this is slightly left of center. The democrats are far left. That's not a winning combination for Dems.

Maybe you do, but to the vast majority of voters these two parties proposed by the OP, are a mainstream right wing party and a mainstream left wing party.

Oh, yes, I remember how in the GOP debates they all were arguing over whether the minimum wage should be 10 dollars or 12. Wait, no. They weren't. This isn't mainstream left versus mainstream right outside of Vermont.

Dude this is one issue they are left on and the increase in min wage gets made up by major deregulation, corporate tax cuts , and cuts in welfare spending .

I'm so sorry you missed 1993-2001. It must be a shame.

Dude being left on one issue doesnt make you center left


Trump opposed free trade- does that make him a leftist

and the min wage increase is not emphasized as much as tax cuts , spending cuts , deregulation.


And yes Bill Clinton was Center-Right after the 1994 elections , not center left.

Center right and center left aren't amorphous terms floating in the aether. They are in relation to the population.

Bush Jr raised min wage too