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« on: December 23, 2014, 01:30:56 PM »

1974
1982
1986
1994
2006
2010
2014

Mine would be

1. 1994( Republican get both houses of congress for first time in 40 years)
2. 1974(Democrats get super majorities)
3. 2014(Democrats lose the Senete, Lowest state legislator since before the depression)
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 02:59:26 PM »

While it narrowly misses your cutoff, I would have to say 1958 was singularly bad. Past that, I would have to say a three-way tie between 1980, 1994, and 2010: this is a simplistic metric, but if you count each Senate seat as 4.35 House seats and add it to the House total, in 1980 the GOP gained 86 seats; in 1994 they gained 89; and in 2010 they gained 89. (By contrast, the Democratic total in 1958 was an unearthly 119; in 1974 it was "just" 75; 57 in 2006; 59 in 2008; and the Republican total was 52 in 2014).

Would 2014 be disastrous as well as Democrats now only hold 1/3 of governerships and state legislators. This would be a disaster as many of the republicans have a much bigger farm to choose candiates for the house senete and presidency then democrats.
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 05:54:12 PM »

1974(The Dems pick up supermajorties.)
1994(The GOP picks up 54 US House Seats and 8 US Senate Seats.)
2006(The Dems pick up 31 US House Seats and 6 US Senate Seats.)
2010(The GOP nets 64 US House Seats for control of the chamber and 6 US Senate Seats.)
2014(the GOP gains 15 House Seats and 9 Us Senate Seats.)
1986(The Dems gain control of the US Senate and add 5 US House Seats to their majority.)
1982(The GOP didn't lose their Senate Majority so I picked 1986 over 1982.)

2014 was worse then 2010
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2014, 12:17:47 AM »

Yup 1958 was a disaster . I think 1994 is basically a reverse 1958
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2014, 01:42:11 AM »

Well I'm pretty sure this thread was started because the OP wanted to gloat over the Dems' loss in 2014, but I'd say:
1994: I mean c'mon, Democrats lost the House for the first time in a couple generations
2006: This is the only other election besides '94 in which both houses flipped
2010: A huge defeat for the Democrats, as it basically stopped them from passing more leg.
2014: This victory gives Republicans a chance to hold both houses of Congress for a long, long time
1974: No chambers flipped, but the number of Democrats who won is stunning
1986: Dems won big in the Senate, but already had the House
1982: Something of a repudiation, but without any chambers flipping it's hard to see this as that big of a deal

Well no it wasnt started because of that . Just becuse I think 2014 was worse then 2010 doesnt mean anything. 2006 and 1982 were also worse then 2010.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2014, 01:50:31 PM »

I can't believe 2002 hasn't been mentioned.

Anyone else remember the media cover-up of the exit polls?

2002 and 1998 were not mentioned since they were Victories for the Party in the White House while the rest are defeats
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2014, 01:53:59 PM »

Well I'm pretty sure this thread was started because the OP wanted to gloat over the Dems' loss in 2014, but I'd say:
1994: I mean c'mon, Democrats lost the House for the first time in a couple generations
2006: This is the only other election besides '94 in which both houses flipped
2010: A huge defeat for the Democrats, as it basically stopped them from passing more leg.
2014: This victory gives Republicans a chance to hold both houses of Congress for a long, long time
1974: No chambers flipped, but the number of Democrats who won is stunning
1986: Dems won big in the Senate, but already had the House
1982: Something of a repudiation, but without any chambers flipping it's hard to see this as that big of a deal

Well no it wasnt started because of that . Just becuse I think 2014 was worse then 2010 doesnt mean anything. 2006 and 1982 were also worse then 2010.


Are you serious?

An average of 30 seats were lost by the GOP in 1982 and 2006.


While the democrats lost 62 seats in 2010!!!!

In 2006 Both the Senete and House were now in the hands of the opposition party and in 2010 only the House was in the opposition party. In 2014 the Senete and House is now in the opposition party hands and so is the State Lesislators and Governers by a huge margin so the White House cant even rely on states to pass legislation which they cant pass in congress. I was wrong about 1982
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2018, 06:04:47 PM »

I still would go with those 3
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2018, 06:12:45 PM »

My ranking would be


1. 1994
2. 1974

3. 2014
4. 2006

5. 2010
6. 1986
7.  2018

8.  1982
9.  1990
10. 1970

11. 1998
12. 2002
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2018, 09:55:15 PM »

Levels of defeat:

Once-in-a-generation, politics redefining trouncing:
1994

Very bad:
1974, 2010

Bad:
1986, 2006, 2014, 2018

Moderately bad:
1982

Meh:
1970, 1990

Midterm victory:
1998, 2002
Putting 2018 in the same category as 2014 is a joke. GOP was +1 in the senate and the house districts they won were in selective areas.
An election with a 40 house seat swing is obviously less of a wave than one with a 13 seat swing.


Republicans gained 9 seats in 2014 , and actually won 2 seats the Dems were favored in (CO and NC).


The Dems lost a seat they were favored in (FL)
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2018, 11:03:17 PM »

Levels of defeat:

Once-in-a-generation, politics redefining trouncing:
1994

Very bad:
1974, 2010

Bad:
1986, 2006, 2014, 2018

Moderately bad:
1982

Meh:
1970, 1990

Midterm victory:
1998, 2002
Putting 2018 in the same category as 2014 is a joke. GOP was +1 in the senate and the house districts they won were in selective areas.
An election with a 40 house seat swing is obviously less of a wave than one with a 13 seat swing.


Republicans gained 9 seats in 2014 , and actually won 2 seats the Dems were favored in (CO and NC).


The Dems lost a seat they were favored in (FL)
I think any reasonable observer would conclude that 2018 was a worse Midterm for the presidents party then 2014 considering that, Republicans started the 2018 cycle with a massive House majority secured by gerrymandering, urban clustering, and the incumbency advantage, along with a Senate map with 10 Democratic senators in Trump states that could be targeted. However, with all these structural advantages they managed to lose almost 40 House seats and only gain a paltry 2 Senate seats. In 2014 Democrats had none of these advantages, and knew they were going to lose badly in 2014, which they did. It’s actualy quite pathetic how bad Republicans lost this Midterm when you think about it, LMAO.

I think 2014 was not only worse than 2018 but worse than 2010 as well.


The Senate Gains were stunning and Republicans had more house seats after that election than any time since 1928

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2018, 12:25:30 PM »

This is the greatest annihilation of Rs in the House since 1974 and with 3.7% unemployment. Fun!


Only if you go by number of seats and that is mainly due to the GOP having more seats this decade than they have had in a very long time.


2008 IMO was a far greater annihilation of Republicans in the House than this
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2018, 12:55:56 AM »

Levels of defeat:

Once-in-a-generation, politics redefining trouncing:
1994

Very bad:
1974, 2010

Bad:
1986, 2006, 2014, 2018

Moderately bad:
1982

Meh:
1970, 1990

Midterm victory:
1998, 2002
Putting 2018 in the same category as 2014 is a joke. GOP was +1 in the senate and the house districts they won were in selective areas.
An election with a 40 house seat swing is obviously less of a wave than one with a 13 seat swing.


Republicans gained 9 seats in 2014 , and actually won 2 seats the Dems were favored in (CO and NC).


The Dems lost a seat they were favored in (FL)

It is notable that Democrats lost in FL in 2018 and Republicans won in CO in 2014. But that makes sense once you consider the vastly different Senate maps. Democrats were defending 75% of the seats up in 2018, including ten seats in states that voted for Trump. Whereas Republicans were defending about 40% of the seats up in 2014, and only had to defend one seat that Obama had won in 2012.


Kay Hagan was also expected to be re-elected and in the House the GOP were at best expected to return to 2010 numbers , instead they got their largest majority since 1928.


In the  Gubernatorial races the Dems lost in Maryland and Illinois
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