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The_Doctor
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« on: July 03, 2017, 05:06:00 PM »

I feel sympathetic to Trump in this case. I am extremely uneasy with putting state hospitals and the state in charge of when a baby dies. I know people are going to bring up the Terri Schiavo example and I would respond, as long as the families can finance their care, they should remain in charge of the person's life.

In this case, the baby had 1.4 million pounds raised (or was it dollars) and there is a potential experimental treatment. I would feel, for once, Trump is right here.

In any case, if the parents can afford it, why don't they exhaust their options before their child has to die?
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The_Doctor
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 01:31:46 PM »

I feel sympathetic to Trump in this case. I am extremely uneasy with putting state hospitals and the state in charge of when a baby dies. I know people are going to bring up the Terri Schiavo example and I would respond, as long as the families can finance their care, they should remain in charge of the person's life.

In this case, the baby had 1.4 million pounds raised (or was it dollars) and there is a potential experimental treatment. I would feel, for once, Trump is right here.

In any case, if the parents can afford it, why don't they exhaust their options before their child has to die?

I'm inclined to agree. While I doubt Trump is doing this at least strictly out of the goodness of his heart, it seems like a wise decision to bring the child here. I'm doubtful anything can help him, but the treatment will allow doctors to collect valuable data which they may be able to use to save or at least improve the lives of future sufferers of this disease. And really, since as far as I know the parents have crowdfunded for the cost of the procedure, I don't really see a downside to trying it.

Oh Trump isn't doing it out of the good of his heart. However, I'll take the help here. The Pope has also come out for Charlie Gard and that's good too. Parents should not be deprived, as I said, of their power to save their children.
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The_Doctor
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2017, 01:37:31 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2017, 01:39:27 PM by TD »

These parents are clearly stuck in the Denial stage of the 7 stages of grief. I've been a death-with-dignity supporter since my grandfather suffered unnecessarily in a nursing home with Parkinson's for 8 years.

Taking this infant off life support is simply the most humane and peaceful thing to do. Denial isn't going to heal him, I hate to break it to you.

We well understand that a child's life is in the hands of its parents until age 18. Especially infants who cannot make their own decisions. In fact, infants are wholly reliant on their parents for survival, care, and feeding.

The state should not have the power to determine whether a child lives or dies, unless the funding is entirely reliant on the state and they need to make decisions on that basis. That's not the case here.

This isn't euthanasia. It's straight up murder. Euthanasia, conceptually (and I support it) is inherently about a terminally ill individual's capacity to make a decision to peacefully end a life. It was never and is never about the state's ability to end the lives of others, especially when the financing isn't even theirs. Especially without their opinion or the opinion of their loved ones to factor into the matter. That's explicitly the antithesis of euthanasia's basis.
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