Trump writing new travel ban + more deportations

[The_Doctor]

I don't understand the political rationale for this and the deportations honestly. It just seems to galvanize liberal whites and minorities, and we know that Trump will lock in 35-40% of whites into the Democratic Party while guaranteeing minuscule improvement among minorities, who rightfully wonder if this Administration isn't just purely pro-white first. As whites drop in absolute numbers by 2025 an entire generation of Latinos and minorities will remember this and vote accordingly. So will a generation of liberal whites.

This seems a ideological kamikaze run to enact the alt rights vision of white America - an America that will slip away anyway.

[The_Doctor]

The Trump Administration seems custom tailored to brand Republicans as a white nationalist party devoted to the interests of a relatively narrow segment of whites. It's kind of insane.

(And the DACA people are gonna be left alone and so will everyone legally allowed to be here and they'll vote for certain. Definitely not seeing minorities embrace the Republicans anytime soon)

[The_Doctor]

I don't understand the political rationale for this and the deportations honestly. It just seems to galvanize liberal whites and minorities, and we know that Trump will lock in 35-40% of whites into the Democratic Party while guaranteeing minuscule improvement among minorities, who rightfully wonder if this Administration isn't just purely pro-white first. As whites drop in absolute numbers by 2025 an entire generation of Latinos and minorities will remember this and vote accordingly. So will a generation of liberal whites.

This seems a ideological kamikaze run to enact the alt rights vision of white America - an America that will slip away anyway.

If I had to put my two cents together I've read some breitbart comment sections and I have the theory that they think that like 85-95% of Hispanics/nations here are illegal and Trumps actions will stop the demographic shifts you mention  

Between 2/3 and 3/4 of all Mexican Americans are legal, numbering some 34 million. That's not even mentioning other Latino groups. Their median age is also ridiculously young. I think it's between 25 and 35.

Also babies born today are more minority than white. That happened in 2011.

[The_Doctor]

It seems like this order may not have some of the same issues as the previous one. I think the administration (and Trump) have recognized the mistakes that were made in regards to the drafting and implementation of the earlier order, and are striving to correct them. Personally, I think that these moves (refugee review, actions against illegal immigrants) are both moves in the right direction. We have to get our immigration system in order, we must maintain the integrity of our borders and our laws, and we must keep this country safe from external threats, either from terrorists or from criminal aliens.

Except we already were illegals are near the bottom in violent crime and if anyone tells me that our airports are lax I have pent up rage from ungodly waits at JFK to unleash on you

Also since 2001 there hasn't been a major attack on American soil. There's been small and scary episodes (2009, 2015) but by and large we've done a really good job on terrorism prevention at home.

[The_Doctor]

It seems like this order may not have some of the same issues as the previous one. I think the administration (and Trump) have recognized the mistakes that were made in regards to the drafting and implementation of the earlier order, and are striving to correct them. Personally, I think that these moves (refugee review, actions against illegal immigrants) are both moves in the right direction. We have to get our immigration system in order, we must maintain the integrity of our borders and our laws, and we must keep this country safe from external threats, either from terrorists or from criminal aliens.

Except we already were illegals are near the bottom in violent crime and if anyone tells me that our airports are lax I have pent up rage from ungodly waits at JFK to unleash on you

But illegal immigrants exacerbate the situation, putting an additional burden upon our law enforcement. In my opinion, since they did not go through the legal processes to get into this country, they should not be. Their being here discounts all of the legitimate efforts of legal immigrants to get here and to make something of themselves.

They're only on a burden on law enforcement if you have law enforcement waste a bunch of time, effort and money searching for productive members of society to deport instead of dealing with real criminals.

Productive members of society? Illegal immigrants are criminals; they violated the law in the first place by being here illegally. Second, many of them have committed other criminal offenses (i.e. identity theft, murder, sex trafficking, drug trafficking, etc.) and need to be removed for it. No one who has broken the law to get here should be allowed to stay.

What are the statistics of illegal immigrants committing crimes? Legitimately asking.

I do agree they strain the safety net (e.g Emergency rooms, health care etc) but what's your reference and source here?