Since "L*tinx" provides no electoral benefits why don't Democrats reject it outright? (user search)
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  Since "L*tinx" provides no electoral benefits why don't Democrats reject it outright? (search mode)
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parochial boy
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« on: October 23, 2021, 05:30:32 PM »

I didn't indirectly do a big thread on Latinx with multiple explanations only for this issue to pop up again  Roll Eyes

It’s quite funny how much people on here flip out about inclusive language when you think about how rare it actually is in English. Imagine if someone actually showed them what it was like in French or Spanish or German where it actually has pretty widespread and regular use.
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parochial boy
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2021, 02:00:25 AM »

I didn't indirectly do a big thread on Latinx with multiple explanations only for this issue to pop up again  Roll Eyes

It’s quite funny how much people on here flip out about inclusive language when you think about how rare it actually is in English. Imagine if someone actually showed them what it was like in French or Spanish or German where it actually has pretty widespread and regular use.

I would have considered it the other way around? It’s more due to fundamental linguistic differences than social/cultural conditions, I think, but American English has transitioned from, say, using fireman to firefighter in a way that Spanish has not done with bombero to bombere/bomberx, or using the singular they vs elle.

Those are mostly not really terms that are in day to day use though, so they contrast to other languages where the gender neutral as you say isn’t an option and where every noun and as a consequent adjectives and all the rest have to be gendered. Obviously in that sort of context, the issue is inherently going to be more present than the handful of easy fixes that you have in English.

I dunno, just opening a few news websites in French (at least Swiss French, the French are a lot more reactionary about this type of thing) and German at random, they, especially youth oriented ones overwhelmingly use some formulations of inclusive language. It’s much more prevalent and has been for much longer than in English where for the most time it isn’t even relevant. But it also contrasts quite starkly to this site which, despite having a young and broadly progressive user base, refuses to even contemplate it as an issue. That would be unimaginable on a site with a similar French or German speaking demographic.

Ignoring what you think about the issue at large, what I find a bit offensive is people treating inclusive language like it is some sort of white American liberal imposition. As if foreign language speakers are to passive or inherently conservative to even think about their own languages and as if any progressive social changes could only possibly originate in the USA.
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