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parochial boy
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« on: October 12, 2017, 02:43:18 AM »

CUP seems to be angry at Puigdemont and are already calling him a "traitor". Early elections in Catalonia?

Honestly I think everyone and their mother knows that Madrid is not giving an inch here so 'hey lets talk with them' is not really a good thing for any Catalonian leader to be advocating for. Given the unrest in recent weeks, you either go full on and declare independence, or you dont. The half in, half out path we saw today does absolutely nothing.
I agree it was a ridiculous move on his part to cowardly back down from declaring independence. Madrid can never be trusted to negotiate in good faith after everything that's happened over the past few weeks, and Puigdemont won't win any support from the remainers from his little stunt today, and he lost a ton of support from the hardcore independence supporters.

I dunno, it makes him look like the reasonable one and Rajoy like the frothing at the mouth imperialist; and the more Rajoy looks like the one being the extremist, the more support for independence will increase.
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parochial boy
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Junior Chimp
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E: -8.38, S: -6.78

« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 12:00:21 PM »

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parochial boy
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 05:44:41 AM »

Apparently the CUP is going to boycott the December election:

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/29/catalonia-independence-madrid-elections-rajoy

Both sides seem hell bent on refusing to give the Catalan people any say in this.
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