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RINO Tom
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« on: December 08, 2020, 06:54:52 PM »

Because the only 2 Demographics that matter; rural whites in the rust belt and moderate suburban Republicans are bound to dislike her.

Mmmk.  If anyone actually wants an opinion from a clearly moderate voter who has given his vote to the Democratic ticket in one of the past two Presidential elections, I find her very arrogant.  A lot of people said that about Hillary, but I felt Hillary's problem was more being "cold" and "aloof."  Harris is neither of those things, and to me she comes across as spitefully sticking up for "Democrats" against the "rest of the world."  If I were a Democratic partisan, I might really like her, but I'm not.  And I don't particularly find her likable, certainly less so than both Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2020, 12:38:41 PM »

Well, my main worry was that she would remind people of HRC in all the wrong ways.

Now that Hill has been vindicated by 2020, I'm actually a lot less worried.

Was she?  Just because Trump was a uniquely unlikable President who was unpopular?  Millions of his own 2016 voters who voted against Clinton knew that ... Biden was only elected because he won back the three crucial states that Clinton took for granted.  I would not say Clinton has been "vindicated," as it's pretty damn clear she could have beaten Trump in 2016 and let us avoid the last four years if she had simply run a better campaign that was more focused on winning and less focused on who she wanted the Democrats' voters to be.

The racism and sexism in this thread is doing a LOT. Especially the notion that basically any woman candidate "would be another Hillary"

GMAFB.  She's a grown adult who has taken several policy stances, and she will be judged for those stances and how she presents them.  If anything, your protection of her as anything less than someone whose record and words can stand for themselves is indicative of your belief that she needs such protection and is kind of racist and sexist in its own right.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2020, 11:48:11 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2020, 11:51:18 PM by RINO Tom »

Because the only 2 Demographics that matter; rural whites in the rust belt and moderate suburban Republicans are bound to dislike her.

Mmmk.  If anyone actually wants an opinion from a clearly moderate voter who has given his vote to the Democratic ticket in one of the past two Presidential elections, I find her very arrogant.  A lot of people said that about Hillary, but I felt Hillary's problem was more being "cold" and "aloof."  Harris is neither of those things, and to me she comes across as spitefully sticking up for "Democrats" against the "rest of the world."  If I were a Democratic partisan, I might really like her, but I'm not.  And I don't particularly find her likable, certainly less so than both Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.

Example number 4,523 of Republicans discovering "there's just something about her I don't like" in a woman candidate for president.

I won’t say whatever bitterness you feel is unfounded, but it’s making you intellectually lazy.  I explained myself, and if that didn’t satisfy you ... well, you’re not exactly someone I’d consider open minded enough to get worked up over.

I don’t consider anything unlikable about Amy Klobuchar.  I don’t find anything unlikable about Stacy Abrams.  You used a strawman personal insult on my character because I gave some criticism of the demeanor of one Democratic official who’s a woman?  That comes across like a literal temper tantrum.  All emotion.
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