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Question: Do you agree with Cuomo?
#1
Absolutely Not. Democrats need to stop America bashing.
 
#2
Do not agree. Not a smart thing to say.
 
#3
No opinion.
 
#4
He has a point.
 
#5
He's right.
 
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RINO Tom
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« on: August 16, 2018, 10:13:50 PM »

America has never been great. The genocide of Native Americans and the enslavement and subsequent second class citizenship applied to African-Americans are not the actions of a great nation. Everyone doesn’t see the country through the prism of white nationalist propaganda.

Ignoring how ing dumb your last sentence is, great nations can do horrible things.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 01:15:43 PM »

He has a point. A lot of even the most belligerent and extreme criticisms of America, with people saying the country doesn't have a right to exist, aren't really all that "wrong". I disagree vehemently with the concept of America not having a right to exist nowadays or Americans not having the right of self-determination, but European settlers settled and murdered Native Americans and built the infrastructure and society of modern day America using violent slavery. The only reason we have a right to be here is because of violence, murder, genocide, and slavery. We have a "right" because we killed and enslaved millions for it.

That fits well into the definition of "not that great".

This is just as simplistic of a take on relations with Native Americans in early America as the White washing that is slightly more prevalent.  We didn't really have a "right" to be here as Europeans, but Native-European relations weren't a one-sided genocide as many of you seem to try to depict the situation.
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