Should we consider IA and OH lean Republican states in the 2020 election?

[RINO Tom]

I'm actually more inclined to say Ohio ... Republicans were doing JUST fine in Ohio before Trump or "Trumpism" or whatever realignment fantasies we're currently entertaining.  Iowa is and likely will remain more swingy.

[RINO Tom]

Republican leaning swing states yes, but both states are swingy with a strong Democratic base that certainly could swing back in a Obama 12 size win.

I really think at this point, a 4-point Dem win probably does not carry Iowa and Ohio. Dems seem more likely to make further inroads in the suburbs than to move back toward Obama numbers in white working class areas.

Why do you think that?  It's not the rhetoric of the party leadership at ALL right now, and they just saw it fail multiple times in a row.