Do the dems have any real chance in 2020?

[RINO Tom]

Of course.  Even vs. a popular Trump, they have a CHANCE.  Trump was barely elected, and while he'll enjoy incumbency, he's still polarizing enough to possibly face an upset.  If he's underwater with popularity, I think he'll be a slight underdog.  If he's at Bush levels (not entirely improbable), he could even face this kind of a defeat as a worst case scenario vs. a strong Democrat with a populist message:

[RINO Tom]

Probably not. Republicans are basically guaranteed to win at least 272 electoral votes (or 270 in the worst-case scenario).

"Democrats are overconfident about 2018"

Uh... yes they are? Doesn't change the fact that there is an impenetrable red 270/272 freiwal.

Discuss with m^ps.

[RINO Tom]

Probably not. Republicans are basically guaranteed to win at least 272 electoral votes (or 270 in the worst-case scenario).

"Democrats are overconfident about 2018"

Uh... yes they are? Doesn't change the fact that there is an impenetrable red 270/272 freiwal.

I'm guessing you're just trolling, because the path to 270 for Dems in 2020 is much easier to envision than it was for Trump in 2016. FL and AZ alone would be sufficient. As would sweeping the Upper Midwest. If the past month is a slight indicator of things to come, I'd be jumping at the chance to run against Trump in 2020. But honestly if I were the Democratic nominee, I'd just camp out in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan the entirety of the race.

You were the genius poor Hillary needed!