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RINO Tom
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« on: August 16, 2016, 09:42:28 AM »

Sorry to derail your thread, but this is an appropriate arena to say this: it is completely ridiculous to think of things as "religious" vs. "atheist."  Atheism is a distinctly fringe subset of being "non-religious," and the vast majority of people who do not have a religion are NOT atheists.  Even among millennials, where organized religion is facing a decline, atheists remains a tiny minority.

Anyway, as SG said, economic issues often rule the day.  According to Gallup, Democrats making less than $30,000 annually are actually PRO-LIFE by about a 5% margin.  I doubt they go to the voting booth thinking about Roe v. Wade if they're seeing ads every week talking about how Mitt Romney outsourced jobs and wants tax cuts for millionaires.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147941/republicans-unified-democrats-abortion.aspx
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2016, 11:08:39 AM »

Sorry to derail your thread, but this is an appropriate arena to say this: it is completely ridiculous to think of things as "religious" vs. "atheist."  Atheism is a distinctly fringe subset of being "non-religious," and the vast majority of people who do not have a religion are NOT atheists.  Even among millennials, where organized religion is facing a decline, atheists remains a tiny minority.


I just said:

African-Americans are more religious than the population as a whole is, with lower rates of atheism and higher rates of church attendance than all other groups have.


I didn't imply that all non-affiliates are atheists any more than I implied that all religious people have high rates of church attendance.

The goal was to simply emphasize that Blacks are more religious than other groups are, and lower rates of athiesm and higher rates of church attendance help demonstrate that claim; I picked those two as examples, nothing more.

No, I know, I was just yapping away.

Anyway, the more important part of my post was below that!  There are tons of very culturally conservative minoroties who struggle to get by and vote Democrat and tons of wealthy folks who don't go to church who vote Republican.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 02:18:25 PM »


Yes. I think individual issues will take a backseat to the fact that most blacks would never even consider voting for a party with a vocal white supremacist contingent.

Not disagreeing as it pertains to present day, but Black voters literally did that from the '30s to the '60s...
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 09:30:35 PM »


Yes. I think individual issues will take a backseat to the fact that most blacks would never even consider voting for a party with a vocal white supremacist contingent.

Not disagreeing as it pertains to present day, but Black voters literally did that from the '30s to the '60s...

Point taken, but it's not as if both parties didn't have that back then.

This.  I would imagine black voters could pick only the lesser of two evils from 1896-1948, as virtually no one in either party even paid lip service to civil rights between McKinley and Truman. 

Define lip service ... Harding and Coolidge were very vocally in favor of federal anti-lynching legislation.

But also, point taken.  Also, more like 1870s on.
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