Trump: Who Needs the Party?

[RINO Tom]

What a piece of shlt.  The party is not supporting him because he doesn't back the GOP's stated ideals, doesn't care about its prospects, is very blatantly sabotaging the only way forward outreach-wise (minority voters) and is spewing hate and divisiveness.

You know when Democrats accuse Republicans of being dog whistle racists because they campaign against cutting welfare or oppose busing poor kids 15 miles across town for the sake of "equality" or any other retarded thing they come up with to scare everyone?  Well, Trump is actually running a racist campaign.  This isn't ridiculous leftist hyperbole like "if you support any Republican, you're complicit in this or that terrible thing" anymore; if you are supporting Trump's campaign, you're supporting Wallace 2.0.  Some (thankfully, more than a few) Republicans have enough dignity and pride in what their party used to and should still stand for to reject Trumpism.

[RINO Tom]

retarded

Sigh. Republicans...

If you want to chastise me for using that term, more than fair enough.

If you're suggesting Republicans use it more than anyone else on this forum, you're ... *dumb*.

[RINO Tom]

What a piece of shlt.  The party is not supporting him because he doesn't back the GOP's stated ideals, doesn't care about its prospects, is very blatantly sabotaging the only way forward outreach-wise (minority voters) and is spewing hate and divisiveness.

You know when Democrats accuse Republicans of being dog whistle racists because they campaign against cutting welfare or oppose busing poor kids 15 miles across town for the sake of "equality" or any other retarded thing they come up with to scare everyone?  Well, Trump is actually running a racist campaign.  This isn't ridiculous leftist hyperbole like "if you support any Republican, you're complicit in this or that terrible thing" anymore; if you are supporting Trump's campaign, you're supporting Wallace 2.0.  Some (thankfully, more than a few) Republicans have enough dignity and pride in what their party used to and should still stand for to reject Trumpism.

The hate for WV is strong in this one.

(Insert Darth Vadar breathing sounds)

LOL, one of the best Senators in DC is a Republican from WV.  I love WV Republicans and any other West Virginians who want to join the GOP, come on in if you agree with our vision.  What I don't want is to provide a haven for WV Democrats who are afraid their party isn't intolerant enough, and that's what Trump is hell bent on doing.

[RINO Tom]

Republicans are going to have to realize there is simply no way Trump is going to win the Presidency.

In addition, Republicans have to realize that even if he were to win the Presidency, it would still be a loss for the Republican party. To put it simply: the party has, pretty much, decided not to field a candidate in this election. Trump is not a Republican, and no Republican should feel any obligation to vote for him, even if he is, technically, running under the Republican label.

But Trump IS a Republican.  REPUBLICANS voted for him in free elections; it's not like he stuffed the ballot boxes or bribed the vote counters.  

Trump represents millions of folks who have probably voted Republican since 2000, and maybe forever, but whose viewpoints leave them poorly represented by their party.  He's more of a Republican than, say, George Wallace was a Democrat (or, at least, a NATIONAL Democrat).  

George Wallace was a Democrat his entire life who represented his region's typical Dem and fought hard against other regions' influence on his party; Trump openly identified as a Democrat not too long ago.

While both ran/are running hideous campaigns that appeal to intolerant and scared people's racial and cultural anxieties, that aspect is not similar.

[RINO Tom]

If the establishment abandons Trump, it will effectively be the end of the Republican Party

Good.  If Trump's views become mainstream in the party, it's not the Republican Party anymore anyway.

[RINO Tom]

If the establishment abandons Trump, it will effectively be the end of the Republican Party

Good.  If Trump's views become mainstream in the party, it's not the Republican Party anymore anyway.

Hasn't that already happened?

No.

[RINO Tom]

Okay, I'm done arguing about Trump's ruining of the GOP, but I will throw this out there:

The meme that Ike was "up for grabs" politically is patently false.  Period.  I've quoted the book a dozen times on here, but in the book "The Presidents Club," Ike discusses how he never wished to discuss politics with friends but he was finally forced to by Truman circa 1949, it severely impacted their personal friendship, as Eisenhower revealed he was a lifelong Republican and had voted for Dewey.  One memorable quote was something along the lines of (speaking of Truman) "He just couldn't imagine that anyone would be anything other than a Democrat, and that is a deplorable quality to have for either side."  That quote says a lot about how Eisenhower viewed governing, which has party led to this myth of him being anything other than decidedly right-of-center on just about every issue of his day.