Socially Conservative Democrats Unite!

[RINO Tom]

I was for a time until that position became truly untenable in the era of BLM and trigger warnings.

I actually like Jim Webb a lot, but he polled at 1% in the party for a reason.

I ended up concluding it's easier pushing the GOP to move to the center on economic issues than to pushing the Democrats to move to the center on social issues.

Please un-conclude that.

[RINO Tom]

How many of you are also pro-protectionism and supported Jim Webb?

I supported Webb, but I'm sort of a free trader. I support NAFTA and a comprehensive FTA with the EU, but I oppose free trade with non-Western countries. I also support limited trade agreements with Asian countries to protect intellectual property and counterbalance China's economic and political influence, but not comprehensive free trade.

I got to say, I'm pretty protectionist, and don't support NAFTA.

I was just wondering if protectionism came hand in hand with social conservatism in Democrats.

I think caring more about economic issues than which college student was fat-shamed for zher otherkin lifestyle often comes hand-in-hand with social conservatism in Democrats.

I actually have a very traditional liberal stance on trade. They're often good, but we need to make sure trade is linked with workers rights, environmental rights, human rights, etc. There is no reason why for example, the US should be making an FTA with Vietnam (as it will in the TPP).

Yes.  I think that's what sets us apart from many Republicans.  We are in a party that is economically better for us, but possibly not socially in line with us.

...and many Democrats, like the man who worked with a GOP Congress to get TPA for the TPP and the woman who negotiated it.

It's why I have such contempt for Hillary Clinton - she is not on line on any issue with me.

She's a run-of-the-mill tax and spend liberal proposing more regulation of business; seems like you'd be right in line with her economically.

[RINO Tom]

How many of you are also pro-protectionism and supported Jim Webb?

I supported Webb, but I'm sort of a free trader. I support NAFTA and a comprehensive FTA with the EU, but I oppose free trade with non-Western countries. I also support limited trade agreements with Asian countries to protect intellectual property and counterbalance China's economic and political influence, but not comprehensive free trade.

I got to say, I'm pretty protectionist, and don't support NAFTA.

I was just wondering if protectionism came hand in hand with social conservatism in Democrats.

I think caring more about economic issues than which college student was fat-shamed for zher otherkin lifestyle often comes hand-in-hand with social conservatism in Democrats.

I actually have a very traditional liberal stance on trade. They're often good, but we need to make sure trade is linked with workers rights, environmental rights, human rights, etc. There is no reason why for example, the US should be making an FTA with Vietnam (as it will in the TPP).

Yes.  I think that's what sets us apart from many Republicans.  We are in a party that is economically better for us, but possibly not socially in line with us.

...and many Democrats, like the man who worked with a GOP Congress to get TPA for the TPP and the woman who negotiated it.

It's why I have such contempt for Hillary Clinton - she is not on line on any issue with me.

She's a run-of-the-mill tax and spend liberal proposing more regulation of business; seems like you'd be right in line with her economically.

Er, Tom, isn't that view just a little bit simplistic?

Of course, haha.  And also somewhat snarky, as the poster I quoted is more or less in direct competition with me as to what direction this party should be pushed.

[RINO Tom]

I'm conservative socially but I think y'all already knew that.

Well, you're not a Democrat, so unless you're going to renounce your economic views, I don't think they're inviting you to the gathering.

[RINO Tom]

Truth be told, to call my views socially conservative would be like calling libertarians socially liberal. It's not quite accurate.

And you're developing more of an "us vs. them" attitude as politics becomes even more polarized, pretty much leaving your social conservatism in the dust for the sake of your disdain for Republicans ... if I do say so myself.