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Mr. Smith
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« on: February 13, 2018, 12:50:21 AM »

Not hired the man who nearly delivered Virginia to Ken Cuccinelli

Not taken August off.

Put the same enthusiasm into the black vote as the Hispanic vote, would've made the difference in Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida

Invested into Arizona much earlier (even if she still lost overall, the narrative would've been very different if Trump lost it in an upset despite the Rust Belt [or even if he won the state by only the same amount he won PA/WI/MI])
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 12:52:03 AM »

Pull an Al Gore and keep Bill out of the campaign.

Focus more on policy rather than attack Trump all the time.

Pick a progressive as your running mate (Warren for example).

And, of course, campaign and appeal more to the Midwestern WWC.

Bill wasn't in the campaign that much, and Gore was hurt because he didn't use Bill.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 08:57:05 PM »
« Edited: February 17, 2018, 09:39:48 PM by L.D. Smith, Aggie! It's Real Expenses Again »

1. Put Bill on the sidelines- having a sexual predator( even if he's your husband) campaign for you weakens your attacks on Trumps behavior.
2. Give up the idea of "going for the landslide" you might make Texas closer but you're not going to win it and you're also thowing money into expensive sun belt states that can be better spent on states you actually need to win.
3. Go easy on the celebrity presence: yes you think this helps with millennials but putting a bunch of pampered rich actors with more silicon in them than brains at the forefront of your campaign isn't a good idea when you are constantly being labled out of touch and entitled

1. Except, once again, he was barely involved at all.

And besides, it was his involvement that denied Obama the popular vote in 2008.

And given how many voters made that link, 'ol Trump even said a lot of times, "you should've heard what Bill said" a bunch of times.

Honestly, at that point, there's just no harm.

2. Easy to say in hindsight, but Hillary wasted time in Ohio and Iowa after they were long gone, Trump wasted time in New Mexico, and only Texas and NC [which only applies when looking at investment] were actually wasted in the Sun Belt.  A slight change of wind would've flipped Arizona and Florida for sure and kept the Rust Belt. Georgia was barely even touched, and I'm sorry, but moving it clearly would've been more useful than Ohio, especially given where things are now.

Also, Kerry "only needed Ohio to win", Gore "only needed Florida", the former lost a good chance in Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, and Iowa in this bid. And the latter lost New Hampshire, Missouri, and Tennessee because of this.

This is what happens when you don't "expand the map" and "focus on winning certain states".

By that logic, Trump shouldn't have gone to the Midwest and tried forever and ever to flip Virginia and Colorado back. In fact, that's the exact logic the media used!

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 01:10:54 AM »

1. Put Bill on the sidelines- having a sexual predator( even if he's your husband) campaign for you weakens your attacks on Trumps behavior.
2. Give up the idea of "going for the landslide" you might make Texas closer but you're not going to win it and you're also thowing money into expensive sun belt states that can be better spent on states you actually need to win.
3. Go easy on the celebrity presence: yes you think this helps with millennials but putting a bunch of pampered rich actors with more silicon in them than brains at the forefront of your campaign isn't a good idea when you are constantly being labled out of touch and entitled

1. Except, once again, he was barely involved at all.

And besides, it was his involvement that denied Obama the popular vote in 2008.

And given how many voters made that link, 'ol Trump even said a lot of times, "you should've heard what Bill said" a bunch of times.

Honestly, at that point, there's just no harm.

Here in New Jersey he was her primary surrogate. He headlined multiple events, IIRC.

Then he was grossly misused, same use as sending Michelle to Arizona.
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