Your feelings on Perez as DNC Chair, Ellison as Deputy Chair?

[Mr. Smith]

For now, Opt. 3.

[Mr. Smith]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

But I ask you this- what do you want?
Do you just want people you consider allies to win, no matter what? That's not how democracy works. In a democracy, you need to get the most votes. If you want to win, you need to win. Win primaries, win conventions, win elections. In 2016, you didn't win. Because Hillary got more votes. As simple as that. In the Party Chair elections, you lost narrowly. Because Perez got more votes. What the hell is wrong with that? It's democracy.

A vast majority of Democrats outside of the Betlway bubble supported Ellison. If the vote was actually put up to the membership (as it is in any decent party) he would have won easily. But the Establishment doesn't give a sh*t about that because it holds the base in utter contempt. Spare me your lectures about democracy.

But that's the process in both parties for many years. You knew it's the process. So yeah, you lost in that process. You have a right to be sour, but threatening to burn everything is just immature and counter-productive.

Really, so tell me how it worked out for the Cantors of the world who followed the process against those angry Tea Partiers? How did it work out for those like Dick Lugar and Bob Bennett instead of people like Mitch McConnell or Ted Cruz?...I thought so.

Trump won the election because he made false promises and promised jobs that can never be brought back. His winning had everything to do with demagoguery and little to do with Democrats not being liberal enough.

No, it clearly was because they weren't.  Youth turnout would've easily kept up, and certainly wouldn't have switched to Trump in Minnesota if they had just gone a bit more left...and genuinely so. Minority turnout would've been better too.

[Mr. Smith]

if you are able to win seats on a local level now occupied by republicans, you are able to build.

if you are trying to wrestle the most liberal seats from more centrist democrats....you aren't going to win, imho.

Wasn't a problem when the Tea Party did things this way. Now they have the Presidency.

Try again.

[Mr. Smith]

What are everyone's thoughts now that it's been a few months?

slightly better.