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Lunar
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« on: July 22, 2009, 07:43:15 PM »
Great, the candidate the Democrats wanted who supports abortion and gay marriage got the GOP nom
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 05:00:01 AM »
Conservative Party running their own candidate?  Fantastic.  What would be a good guess of such a candidate's strength?  5-10%?
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 06:45:27 AM »
« Edited: July 24, 2009, 07:00:52 AM by Lunar »
http://www.politickerny.com/4619/conservative-jim-kelly-ready-run-against-rino-scozzafava

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He's not even going to complete the thought and say the GOP is also trying to get rid of her to get a "true conservative" in her seat as well or something?

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Crush her like the little girl she is!  Everyone knows women don't belong in a man's world.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 06:52:22 AM »
it gets weirder if you keep going back a few pages (with her name in ""'s)
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 07:01:39 AM »
lol, haha, I was thinking about making a thread but changed my mind, link got mixed up, I guess that conservative party guy apologized in the update on the link for what it's worth,

regardless, it shows he doesn't have "it"
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 06:34:02 AM »
Without knowing anything about this Owens character, it seems like the GOP will probably keep this depending on how well the Conservative Party does...which doesn't really bother me because a Republican that supports gay marriage would be kind of a neat novelty item in Congress
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 01:20:54 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Moderate on September 25, 2009, 07:49:10 AM
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on September 25, 2009, 06:56:56 AM
Club for Growth released a poll:

Dede Scozzafava (R) - 20
Bill Owens (D) - 17
Doug Hoffman (C) - 17

Yeah, I don't know.

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please CfG please do it please, I'd like to see them lose another House seat for the GOP just for the laughs.

It'd also leave Pete King an awfully lonely Representative in the North
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 01:28:02 PM »
yeah but even Chris Lee barely knows he exists
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 08:53:48 PM »
she does seem both more economically and socially liberal than the Democrat in this race
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 11:13:55 PM »
Quote from: Meeker on September 28, 2009, 11:09:08 PM
Fred Thompson just endorsed Doug Hoffman.

Election's over guys; nothing to see here. Head on home.

Did Fred Thompson have some adviser that got asked of him what Fred could do to become less relevant?
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 05:49:07 PM »

Smart move, having the election seem more regular could help Democratic turnout
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 10:16:28 PM »
CfG just promised to dump 250k for Hoffman [which I'm sure will be 100% positive, everyone knows the CfG doesn't run negative ads against Republicans]
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 10:18:32 PM »
Here's how whats-his-face (D) can win this race:  go hardcore in your support for Unions.  DeDe supports card-check, so triple-up her so that you can get lots of labor votes and volunteers and hopefully win the plurality,
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2009, 06:53:02 PM »
NRA endorsed the Republican candidate, interestingly enough.  I guess that's their normal policy -- endorse whoever has the record, but Hoffman is almost certainly more ideologically & blindly pro-gun.

But I think the NRA likes to encourage policymakers to develop pro-NRA records, even moderates, just in case they decide to run for office later.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 04:48:32 AM »
Honestly, Dede has been bitten and the sharks are gathering at the smell of blood.  Even the GOP congressional caucus is showing signs of rebellion at Session's endorsement of a pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, pro-card check, pro-tax candidate when there's a "real Republican" in the race.

Obama and the Working Families and everyone else is just getting behind the perceived frontrunner while they can still claim credit for helping the victory.  Of course, this is the same White House that thought Obama could boost Chicago from 2nd to 1st place when he couldn't even get it out of last.

The momentum is clearly swinging in Wilson's direction, impressive since originally I didn't think he had a chance.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2009, 06:43:57 AM »
« Edited: October 17, 2009, 01:24:45 PM by Lunar »
She hasn't retired, right?

It seems the national mood has concluded Owens is ahead though...and the GOP is increasingly worried their 1-2 wins in the governor mansions will be blunted by a loss in NY-23
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2009, 01:24:19 PM »
frick, Owens.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2009, 10:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Jbrase on October 17, 2009, 09:27:59 PM
Hoffman has been going up in the polls, he could actualy win.

just because he's going up doesn't mean he can get to 33%
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2009, 04:29:53 AM »
I think he just hates blue dogs
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2009, 03:18:49 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2009, 04:28:20 PM by Lunar »
Quote from: Mr. Moderate on October 20, 2009, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: px75 on October 20, 2009, 04:17:24 AM
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on October 20, 2009, 02:52:17 AM
Scozzafava has earned the endorsement of far-left blog entrepreneur and political strategist Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, who runs the Daily Kos site. He says that Scozzafava has “been willing to raise taxes when budgets require it, and is to the left of most Democrats on social issues.”

Is that what passes for an endorsement these days?
In my neck of the woods it's called damning with faint praise.

If you don't think Kos knew that national Republican pundidiots like Michele Malkin would latch on to his "endorsement" and use it as a reason to  over Scozzafava, then you're nuts.

He knows a mild "endorsement" there would be a boon to the sore loser Conservative.

no, I'm pretty sure he just hates blue dogs.

I'd bet money that he'd be happy if Hoffman won.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2009, 05:37:36 PM »
He says he'll vote Boehner for majority leader and he's going to run in the 2010 Republican primary no matter what -- even if Dede wins.  So the Conservatives, I presume, would get a congressman with their party name for only one term.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2009, 07:08:02 PM »
Hoffman faces a few problems:

- Dede has a strong base of three counties that she represents in the district, and she maintains high approval in them, thus there's only so many Republicans he'll be able to pull off through a substantive part of the district.
- There are many conservative party-line voters.  Most of Hoffman's gains in polling is among independent conservatives.

The RNC however, has declined to invest in Dede like they did for Tedisco, and all the money is coming in on the Hoffman side.  There's not much of a financial home for a pro-card-check pro-gay-marriage pro-choice Republican in the GOP.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2009, 04:26:57 AM »
dede is in complete hindenberg mode at the moment,

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1009/Reporter_never_yelled_at_Scozzafava.html
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2009, 04:48:01 AM »
was her campaign not aware that reporters yelling questions might be wearing audiotapes or did they just not care at this point?
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2009, 11:31:05 AM »
damn these brits are feisty.  Yeah, 3 am wasn't my best historical recollection time
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