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Lunar
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« on: March 08, 2009, 10:04:18 AM »

Callista?  Is that the latest one?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 02:25:39 PM »

Indeed, or a few.  Guiliani would have been the first thrice-married president, but perhaps Newt can finally shatter that highest of glass ceilings.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 12:27:12 AM »

Gingrich doesn't want the Presidency, IMO.  I think he's happy promoting his cause for conservatism (American Solutions).  And keeping these rumors alive is one way to do that.

Gingrich is the only listserve I'm on that puts crappy ads in their blasts
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 11:35:46 AM »

Jake Tapper is fairly objective journalist
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=2937633

It's worth noting that Gingrich did not limit his comments about Clinton and the Democrats to legalistic allegations of perjury.

Constantly espousing family values even while he carried on an affair, Gingrich linked his party to wholesome family values and Democrats to, well, something else.

During the 1992 Democratic National Convention, Gingrich said, "Woody Allen having nonincest with a nondaughter to whom he was a nonfather because they were a nonfamily fits the Democratic platform perfectly."

In 1994, Gingrich linked Democrats to Susan Smith, a woman who had murdered her two children in 1991.

"I think that the mother killing the two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we need to change things," he said. "The only way you get change is to vote Republican."
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 03:01:08 PM »

Wright may not be the best spokesman

I mean, Guiliani was considered a serious contender and he's pro-choice, anti-gun, divorced twice, and his kids won't even speak to him.  But yeah, he never primped himself up to be holier-than-thou like Newt did.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 01:23:09 PM »

Republicans won with a Former Vice President, a Former Governor, and a Former House Speaker could do it. Why not?

I mean, Dick Gephardt flopped on the Democratic side.  Being House Speaker is an entirely different ballgame in terms of donors, constituency, and support, than winning a presidential primary.

And those other "formers" were more relevant.  Like, Reagan and Nixon had both ran for president and barely lost their respective races long before they were cast into the "former" category.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 01:32:35 PM »

Republicans won with a Former Vice President, a Former Governor, and a Former House Speaker could do it. Why not?

Any Representative is very poorly prepared for a national campaign, especially one that has been gone for ten years.

Another big problem, outside of relevancy, is that usually politicians who have been out of business for a while accumulate baggage such as lobbyist work or blunt, offensive statements.  Although there's endless more baggage such politicians gather.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 04:39:20 AM »

The thing is that sometimes candidates don't enter a race to win, but to push the debate in certain directions.  Newt appears to believe that it's important the Republican party offer concrete solutions to voters that meet challenges of the future.  If he thinks his entering the race will force candidates and the party to do that, he might run for that reason, as well as the effect of making him an important player in the party again.

Those sorts of candidates, like Tancredo and Kucinich, lack the profile Newt have.  No one that wins the nomination isn't there to win.  There is a given assumption that the country, as a whole, is effectively a swing state and that anything can happen in a race.  Even if Obama was initially predicted to have a 99.9% of winning reelection with skyrocketing approvals, there would still be high-profile candidates entering for the sole purpose of being "there" if the gaffes happen or something emerges. 

Yeah, the candidates that aren't in it to win it don't win the nomination.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 05:03:07 AM »
« Edited: March 11, 2009, 11:08:47 AM by Lunar »

Another funny thing.  For a while way back when, Guiliani, McCain, and to a lesser extent, Gingrich were the three leading candidates for the 2008 nomination.  The party that wants to protect the sanctity of marriage had eight wives and ex-wives as well as multiple affairs with between the three dudes.  But it's not as if the Democrats can get all preachy (despite Obama's beautiful marriage) since at the same time...considering who their last president was and who their current two frontrunners were.
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