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Lunar
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« on: January 21, 2009, 12:19:14 AM »

I just approve of the final sentence "Study hard and keep an open mind"

Everything else about the flaws in the theory should be included by the authors & publisher in the proper chapters.

Mississippi already has the worst education in the country, do we need to bring it down another peg or something with asinine bills like this?  Couldn't they be working on reforming the system instead of worrying about students believing in dangerous "controversial theories" that are a staple in the science community?
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Lunar
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 12:24:17 AM »

I don't recall anything in the Theory of Evolution that says humans are monkeys and have no value.
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Lunar
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 12:40:53 AM »

I don't recall anything in the Theory of Evolution that says humans are monkeys and have no value.

Which would give you greater self-esteem and respect for one another:

1. You are, at best, a cosmic accident and evolved from something that you can go see at the zoo.  Survival of the fittest is in effect, kill or be killed out there.

2. You are a unique creation of an almighty God who loves you and every other person around you.  Love thy neighbor as God as made all people equal.

A.  There is no conflict between believing you a product of God and believing in evolution.  You can still believe you were intentionally born with a purpose and that humans have an elevated status, while still believing that natural selection produced us.

B.  I don't think there are any particular ethical prescriptions provided for humans from #A.  "Be or be killed" applies to the animal world while it's particularly obvious that that is not the case for Mississippi.  I don't think the textbooks are teaching social darwinism like you're pretending they do or that in any way anyone would read them as suggesting to kill your weaker classmates.

C.  I think there's something beautiful about us being a cosmic accident, I respect that more than some God creating humanity and
 
D.  Well, if the science doesn't support it, should we be teaching kids pseudo-lies just to ensure social harmony?  That sounds dictatorial to have politicians with no scientific background to be dictating what's in our science class in order to promote cohesion?  How about we just teach all of our kids that Obama is God so that they don't try and throw a revolution?

I suppose we should just forget about science and just replace it with Bible Studies, this conversation is stupid and you're using stupid strawman arguments
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Lunar
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 08:01:18 PM »

Natural Selection =! Social Darwinism

To say otherwise is a severe strawman and a presupposition about the implications of darwinism that is blatantly untrue

read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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Lunar
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 08:02:58 PM »

social darwinism isn't taught in science class
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