Foreign-born US President

[Lunar]

I don't trust foreign born citizens with the presidency. They'd be more likely to sell us out to the UN or some other joke of an organization.

Because naturalized citizens are secret agents planted by the UN to advance the UN agenda?

Basing your decision on who is allowed to run for office and who isn't based upon who is "more likey to sell us out to the UN or some other joke" seems a bit infinitely regressive.  Why not prevent Democrats, foreign policy liberals, anyone who doesn't have an American flag on their garage, anyone who's been to another country, etc. from running?

[Lunar]

I don't trust foreign born citizens with the presidency. They'd be more likely to sell us out to the UN or some other joke of an organization.

Because naturalized citizens are secret agents planted by the UN to advance the UN agenda?

Don't be absurd.  I completely agree with Philip, and I'm a foreigner.  If you're unable to comprehend what he is saying, maybe you should ask for a refund on your education.

Jesus Christ dude, there's no need to insult me.

It was intentionally absurd to show my feelings about the argument.

I'm not saying that there is no legitimate argument on the other side, I'm simply saying that justifying it by "they're more likely to turn over control to the UN" is awfully silly.

[Lunar]

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Um, the infinitely regressive argument was my argument.

I also found the idea of all of these foreign born, naturalized citizens just sitting there, biding their time, ready to convert the United States into UN Member State #0032 very comical.

You must be logged in to read this quote.

And that's the real justification for the current system.

My position isn't that we shouldn't take into account these influences, but rather that fear of these subconscious influences shouldn't be a trump card against an otherwise superb candidate.

[Lunar]

Saying they'd be more likely to sell us out to the UN (which is of course true) is not the same as mentioning all these naturalized citizens trying to turn the U.S. into a UN Member State #32 or whatever.

Yeah, I've already admitted to using a hyperbole.  Guilty as charged.

Hell, I'm probably more likely to do what you would consider "selling us out" to an international organization than most of the naturalized citizenry in this country.