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Lunar
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« on: December 12, 2004, 09:44:12 PM »

No drug testing, suspicion or not.  Random drug testing is somewhere around what I'd classify as "evil" Wink

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Lunar
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2004, 05:48:39 PM »

There is not a single amendment in the Bill of Rights that the liberals want to follow, except the ones dealing with trials and law enforcement.

Aren't you the one that wants to repeal them all?

I consider myself a liberal and I like all 10.
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Lunar
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2004, 05:51:39 PM »

Here at my school, they test all clubs equally, and waste a LOT of money.  They also pull us out of class to test us and it's our own responsibility to make up the work.
Now that's not something I can imagine happening in a Democracy. Seriously.

It can happen when the majority of voters support curtailing personal rights and freedoms.  Democracy doesn't gaurantee anything - it just reflects the electorate, and we happen to have a bad one here. 

Obviously things would be much worse were it not for the undemocratic aspects of the Constitution - Bill of Rights, etc.
Obviously your definition of Democracy is different from mine - I would never call the Bill of Rights an undemocratic aspect of the Constitution.
Indeed, the problem here seems to be that the Bill of Rights is outdated and insufficient, otherwise this would be unconstitutional.

The entire Constitution is very authoritarian in nature, Opebo is right.

Notice how much more work it takes than 51% of the vote to change it?   Opebo is right.  Besides that, it limits what the people can do and sets the parameters for various officials to have power that isn't bestowed by the people (judges, Federal appointments, the House, and even the Senate is very un-democratic by giving Rhode Island as many votes as California).
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Lunar
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2004, 08:56:13 PM »

Yes. Why be worried if there's nothing to hide? Same about the Patriot Act.

Much of the drug testing is random and does not require suspicion first.  Meaning that YOU have to go through the invasion of your privacy whether you have something to hide or not.

Just because I know I'm not plotting assassinations with my relatives doesn't mean I'd be hypothetically comfortable with a team of FBI agents pouring over every word.
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