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Lunar
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« on: August 05, 2010, 10:35:11 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 10:41:04 PM »

Not to ruin the fun, fun in Massachusetts, the Republicans are actually having their best year ... like, ever. And I don't think you can blame Coakley on anyone but Coakley.

A Republican winning anything in Massachusetts is an epic fail by the Democrats.  It's like Rick Santorum being elected Mayor of DC.

I mean...if you ignore New York, there's currently a Republican governor of, or a competitive Senate or Governor election in Obama's top 30 best states.  #31, Montana, has a Democratic governor and no Senate or Governor election so it gets to scrape on by.

Rhode Island, Hawaii, Vermont, and Connecticut all have Republican Governors.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 10:50:04 PM »


I think the Democrat will win here, but I'd put the race as competitivish.  As I told Snowguy recently, the MN GOP is kinda screwed in this election because Pawlenty has been governing with 2012 in mind and ruining the local brand of Republicanism.  

But it was Obama's 21st best state, so I think the point still largely stands...I counted a number of other races as competitive which could be contestable, like Washington, and I don't think Rossi has the fundamentals working in his favor very much.

My numbers were also flawed because they glossed over #28, North Carolina.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 10:52:39 PM »

That's true.  But Massachusetts voted for George McGovern.  You just don't lose that kind of state.

The most recent Democratic governor of Massachusetts before Patrick, elected in a Democratic wave year in 2006, was Dukakis.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 11:21:27 PM »

I'd put forth Democratic Party of Wyoming as a pretty effective contender for one of the most fail state parties of the year. 24 Democratic state legislators in total and mayors out the ears, and who did they anoint as candidate? Leslie Petersen.

Yeah. Good one, guys.

Eh ..., I think that's a harder argument to make.  Nominating a sacrificial lamb in a state like Wyoming doesn't quite represent anything close to the fail that Colorado or New York's GOP have endured this cycle. 

If Lazio loses to the guy that is outspending him 10-1 in the GOP primary here, then he'll have to choose between destroying the Conservative Party of New York or running a passionate third-party campaign, as third parties need 50,000 votes on the governor's line to remain in existence here.

And the Democrats losing Wyoming doesn't remotely compare to the CO GOP's implosion int he race against Hickenlooper.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 09:24:48 PM »

The most recent Democratic governor of Massachusetts before Patrick, elected in a Democratic wave year in 2006, was Dukakis.

Don't blame the Democratic wave. Patrick would have won his 2006 race in any environment. Mitt Romney was just too toxic; Kerry Murphy Healey was just too weak.

Ah, but still.  It's not like MA typically has Democratic governors or anything
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 12:39:33 AM »

The Texas GOP took Rick Perry over Kay Bailey Hutchion. Sure, they'll still probably win, but Hutchison would've made it a lock for them, as opposed to the competitive race Perry is having.

Hutchison's primary campaign didn't exactly inspire confidence.

If KBH composed herself as a decent candidate, and Perry a poor one, Bill White wouldn't even be in the governor's race.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 11:22:20 PM »

     The CAGOP could have nominated Tom Campbell to run for Senate. Instead, they nominated Carly Fiorina.

Yeah, but if they were both going to lose anyway, hypothetically, Carlyfornia saved the losing campaign 10 million dollars, so that factors into the equation.

And really, how much can you blame the CA GOP in this situation?  It's not like Campbell would have been certain to win the primary if Carlyfornia wasn't in the picture.  Carlyfornia & Devore split the conservative vote, after all.                                                   
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