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Figs
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« on: November 28, 2018, 01:42:09 PM »

Is it an innate thing in the conservative mind to go to conspiracy theories about why they lose?


You do realize that the left does this as well? Or do you only care about one side's problems?

There's a long history of this from the political fringes. Around a dozen Democrats, all of them from safe districts, voted to invalidate Ohio's electoral votes as recently as 2004. But we no longer live in a country where there is symmetry in this regard. The systemic refusal to accept the results of elections that we've seen from Trump, Rick Scott, Bruce Poliquin, and many other Republicans who refused to accept their losses last month really is without precedent in our lifetimes, and it's trickling down to rubes on the street such as the not-so-esteemed creator of this thread. People are genuinely fearful about how Trump would handle a loss in 2020, and for good reason.


I never said there was or wasn't symmetry. I'm referring to some democrat voters calling for the disbanding of the senate, the electoral college and even SCOTUS (in its current form)  because they lose elections.

Yes, this is a smaller subset of Dem voters, but some users on this forum take every random republican and make it into a representation of all republicans.


Those are structural and political preferences with rationales behind them that you can agree with or disagree with. Perhaps they're fringe, but that speaks only to where the center of opinion is, not to the legitimacy of those opinions. And they're most certainly not unfounded conspiracy theories like this article.
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Slander and/or Libel
Figs
Sr. Member
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Posts: 2,338


Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -7.83

« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 03:35:44 PM »

Is it an innate thing in the conservative mind to go to conspiracy theories about why they lose?


You do realize that the left does this as well? Or do you only care about one side's problems?

There's a long history of this from the political fringes. Around a dozen Democrats, all of them from safe districts, voted to invalidate Ohio's electoral votes as recently as 2004. But we no longer live in a country where there is symmetry in this regard. The systemic refusal to accept the results of elections that we've seen from Trump, Rick Scott, Bruce Poliquin, and many other Republicans who refused to accept their losses last month really is without precedent in our lifetimes, and it's trickling down to rubes on the street such as the not-so-esteemed creator of this thread. People are genuinely fearful about how Trump would handle a loss in 2020, and for good reason.


I never said there was or wasn't symmetry. I'm referring to some democrat voters calling for the disbanding of the senate, the electoral college and even SCOTUS (in its current form)  because they lose elections.

Yes, this is a smaller subset of Dem voters, but some users on this forum take every random republican and make it into a representation of all republicans.


Those are structural and political preferences with rationales behind them that you can agree with or disagree with. Perhaps they're fringe, but that speaks only to where the center of opinion is, not to the legitimacy of those opinions. And they're most certainly not unfounded conspiracy theories like this article.

Leftists calling for eliminating the senate because they lose is just as pathetic as random conservatives seeing voter fraud everywhere.

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory for it to be pathetic or evidence of being sore losers.


The Senate is by its definition anti-democratic, small d. There are perfectly good and defensible reasons to call for its abolition as such.
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