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« on: July 27, 2018, 08:26:11 PM »
« edited: July 27, 2018, 09:31:46 PM by Vox Populi »

Bernie bros defending murderous foreign dictator.
In other news, water is wet.

Don't bring Bernie Sanders into this - he's been very vocal about the Russia investigation, protecting Mueller, being tough on Russia etc. As has Elizabeth Warren. Same with the vast majority of Sanders voters. Don't let chronic whiners like jfern poison Sanders.

Here is Bernie Sanders after Helsinki

 
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I'm not sure what the point of these random opinion articles are. Should the Democrats running across the country run on "Russia"? Of course not - words like "bots", "hacking", "collusion", "FISA" documents" etc are abstract words that don't resonate with your average ill-informed American and aren't issues you can grasp, especially if you're  53 year old living in ruralish Wisconsin or whatever. But are they running on this? Most of the ads I've seen have involved the corruption, tax cuts of the GOP/Trump administration. So what exactly is the problem? That *we* shouldn't be talking about it? Those of us who are more politically inclined, should be talking about this. These are issues that are serious and expansive and confusing and need to be discussed in order to combat misinformation what is going on. Any reasonable person should be very concerned about this.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2018, 03:58:01 AM »

Bernie bros defending murderous foreign dictator.
In other news, water is wet.

Don't bring Bernie Sanders into this - he's been very vocal about the Russia investigation, protecting Mueller, being tough on Russia etc. As has Elizabeth Warren. Same with the vast majority of Sanders voters. Don't let chronic whiners like jfern poison Sanders.

Here is Bernie Sanders after Helsinki

 
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I'm not sure what the point of these random opinion articles are. Should the Democrats running across the country run on "Russia"? Of course not - words like "bots", "hacking", "collusion", "FISA" documents" etc are abstract words that don't resonate with your average ill-informed American and aren't issues you can grasp, especially if you're  53 year old living in ruralish Wisconsin or whatever. But are they running on this? Most of the ads I've seen have involved the corruption, tax cuts of the GOP/Trump administration. So what exactly is the problem? That *we* shouldn't be talking about it? Those of us who are more politically inclined, should be talking about this. These are issues that are serious and expansive and confusing and need to be discussed in order to combat misinformation what is going on. Any reasonable person should be very concerned about this.


Sanders voted against Russia sanctions.

That specific bill from 2017 you are talking about combined Russia sanctions with Iran sanctions. Bernie Sanders was for the Russian sanctions but did not want additional sanctions imposed on Iran. You can view his statement here

He also tweeted this right after





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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2018, 04:13:12 AM »



That specific bill from 2017 you are talking about combined Russia sanctions with Iran sanctions. Bernie Sanders was for the Russian sanctions but did not want additional sanctions imposed on Iran. You can view his statement here


Tweets don't count, votes do.

Ok, you're not behaving any better than jfern at this point. You were already told why Sanders voted against that sanctions bill - it wasn't because he was pro-Russia, it was because he didn't want sanctions on Iran, which is valid. They never should have been lumped together on the same bill in the first place tbh.
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