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NHLiberal
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« on: June 22, 2014, 07:01:44 PM »

Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

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Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

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NHLiberal
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2014, 11:16:05 PM »

Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?
Why do you think I'm a troll? Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are both fiscal conservatives who are popular with movement conservatives, both are young, white, and male, and both are from Wisconsin.  Meanwhile, Hillary and Kirsten are both prominent Democratic women, both are hawkish, both have big connections to Wall Street, and both are from New York.  The Scott Walker and Paul Ryan ticket could put Wisconsin into play for the Republicans while the Clinton/Gillebrand ticket might help reinforce New Jersey and PA if theRepublican's opt for Christ Christie.  Both of those tickets represent attempts at amplification in the ticket.  

There are constitutional problems with both members of a ticket being from the same state, namely that they can't both win that particular state's electoral votes.

It's easy to register in a different state. We had a 2 Texas oilmen ticket in 2000.


Yes but you can't just arbitrarily do so. Cheney had at least some legitimate Wyoming connection; he had, after all, represented that state in the House. What would Clinton do, register in Arkansas? And neither of the Cheesemen could get away with registering in another state...
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