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Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
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« on: August 13, 2015, 11:03:28 AM »

IceSpear explained pretty well why conceding the 2016 presidential election is a bad idea for dems:

Setting themselves up for an even more GOP senate and congress!

This doesn't even make sense. Do you think it makes more sense for Democrats to throw the presidential election and potentially risk a right-wing majority on SCOTUS, repeal of most legislation passed during the Obama presidency, forfeiting all executive power, etc. for the sake of MAYBE winning Congress in 2018?

How much is hillary going to pass when the GOP supermajority going to come around?

First of all, I highly doubt there will be a GOP "supermajority" (either 66% or 60%) in the House or Senate even after 2018. Secondly, even if there was, it still makes no sense whatsoever to throw a presidential election and hand the GOP a trifecta on a silver platter for a MINIMUM of 2 years. Dems gain nothing in this scenario. There's only two possible Senate pickups for Dems in 2018, even in a massive wave. Assuming they win the presidential election, the GOP probably has 52 seats or more after 2016. So taking back the Senate is likely a nonstarter. The House is gerrymandered to hell, but in a wave Dems could take it back. But it's no sure thing that 2018 would be a Democratic wave even if the incumbent Republican is unpopular, particularly because of turnout issues which plague Democrats in midterms. So the stategery here is apparently to throw a presidential election, hand the GOP all the executive power, let them possibly replace Ginsburg and some of their own justices on the SCOTUS, let them repeal countless pieces of legislation passed since 2009, all for...an outside shot at taking the House? Uh, no thanks on that deal.
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Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
Dwarven Dragon
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Posts: 31,985
United States


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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2015, 03:15:29 PM »

Lol even if Hillary went to jail, Obama would just pardon her. She is fine lol

Even if he did (I'm not convinced he would, since it would reveal him once and for all as the partisan hack he is and negatively affect his approval numbers and legacy), that wouldn't magically eliminate the massive  Hillary favorability sink that would come with her being sent to jail.

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