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Question: Should we defund Planned Parenthood
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CapoteMonster
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« on: July 28, 2015, 11:24:00 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-gop-fast-tracks-bill-to-defund-planned-parenthood_55b8274ae4b0074ba5a6bc43

Hope they fail. I don't want millions of women to lose healthcare services (normal).
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CapoteMonster
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2015, 04:49:26 PM »

If it isn't defunded, Congress should at least prohibit them from donating to political campaigns while receiving federal funds. I mean, Planned Parenthood is a corporation, and they engage in a lot of corporate money speech, which the left usually says is bad. It just seems weird that the feds give money to a non-profit which has lots of profits, enabling it to divert those profits into attack ads against Republicans.

I would agree with that but I like how Wulfric thinks one of the country's largest healthcare providers funds can be replaced without at least a shaky transition.
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CapoteMonster
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 10:57:19 AM »

Yeah I'm sure the liberal defense of this shady organization has nothing to do with planned parenthood spending millions on ads for democratic candidates

Or maybe because we don't want millions of women to be denied access to Pap smears, birth control, pre nadar testing, or STD and cancer screenings. You guys act like Planned Parenthood is some sort of abortion factory when it's 3% of their services and their goal is obviously to make sure women have intended pregnancies and guidance through them. PP prevents hundreds of thousands more pregnancies than abortions they perform. Furthermore people like Wulfric and CC are completely ignoring the dichotomy of personhood and life. If you define any fetus as a person we could easily charge women with negligent behavior for miscarriages at every stage of pregnancy. Would you constitute a zygote as human just because it's living? If so how is it any more human than a egg or sperm and would you ban birth control or abortion a week or two after a coopuole conceives? I hope not.
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CapoteMonster
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 12:56:09 PM »

Yeah I'm sure the liberal defense of this shady organization has nothing to do with planned parenthood spending millions on ads for democratic candidates

You guys act like Planned Parenthood is some sort of abortion factory when it's 3% of their services and their goal is obviously to make sure women have intended pregnancies and guidance through them.

This is a misleading statistic. Planned Parenthood deflates the proportion by breaking down their "services" into their individual components. Getting an STD test, getting some pills, and taking a condom in one visit count as three individual "services". It's estimated that abortions account for around a third of their revenue, and that they carry out around forty percent of the country's abortions.

It also bears saying that they carried out 327,653 abortions in fiscal 2014, compared to 18,684 "prenatal services" and just 1,880 adoption referrals.

That's not misleading. If someone got an abortion with those three other services no one would say it's stretching the truth that the procedure is only 1/4 of those services. You say they carry out 300k abortions which is closer to 1/3. Guess what, the Title X funding they receive prevents many more (per SWE on AAD).


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-02-24-family-planning_N.htm?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-22IUchRvV.iL.BvPFHrg5Q
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