Mini Tuesday results thread

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We might not know the winner in WA for at least a few days if it’s close, since we vote by mail. So get ready for CA slow counting part two .

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Yeah, while I think Baldwin would be a great choice in a vacuum, holding down her seat with a Democratic president wouldn't be easy, and we do have to factor these things in.

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Are we getting more needles tonight?

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Well, I hope that the Democrats voting based on "electability" are right about Biden. I really do. If they're not, they'll have a ton to answer for, and we're all screwed.

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Yeah, Biden wins WA by about 5 unless the results so far are randomly mixed. Not surprised to see some of the gloating and rubbing it in, though I wish some people could see that they’re acting exactly like the “Bernie Bros” that they claim are so terrible. Honestly, might be time for me to take a break from this site, at least until the hate boners for Sanders start to go away.

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Yeah, Biden wins WA by about 5 unless the results so far are randomly mixed. Not surprised to see some of the gloating and rubbing it in, though I wish some people could see that they’re acting exactly like the “Bernie Bros” that they claim are so terrible. Honestly, might be time for me to take a break from this site, at least until the hate boners for Sanders start to go away.

Did you hear Biden's speech tonight.
He wants and needs you and the other Bernie supporters to defeat trump come November.
He is being inclusive to all/everyone.

I haven’t watched his speech, but I’ve never accused Biden of being divisive. And yes, I’ve said many times before that I’ll vote for Biden in November, but going forward, I’m not sure I belong in a party with many voters openly hostile to Sanders and all of his supporters (yes, some just go after the Twitter crowd, but many are perfectly fine generalizing) and not even recognizing that the negativity coming from them is hurting the party.

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Yeah, Biden wins WA by about 5 unless the results so far are randomly mixed. Not surprised to see some of the gloating and rubbing it in, though I wish some people could see that they’re acting exactly like the “Bernie Bros” that they claim are so terrible. Honestly, might be time for me to take a break from this site, at least until the hate boners for Sanders start to go away.

Did you hear Biden's speech tonight.
He wants and needs you and the other Bernie supporters to defeat trump come November.
He is being inclusive to all/everyone.

I haven’t watched his speech, but I’ve never accused Biden of being divisive. And yes, I’ve said many times before that I’ll vote for Biden in November, but going forward, I’m not sure I belong in a party with many voters openly hostile to Sanders and all of his supporters (yes, some just go after the Twitter crowd, but many are perfectly fine generalizing) and not even recognizing that the negativity coming from them is hurting the party.

I am sorry, but should the same not be expected of Bernie supporters? They are the ones who are screaming that "Biden has dementia" and essentially helping out Trump to the best of their ability. Now I understand that Biden's supporters have been a bit show offish, but is this not but a reaction to the fact that Bernie, according to his own words, is (or was) literally going for a hostile takeover of the party?

I’ve never defended Sanders supporters who were assholes to other people. Never. All I’m asking is that we not only go after the toxic folks on one side.

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I agree with you. As someone who has backed Biden since before he announced, I apologize for the people tearing Sanders down. Especially the former Republicans who want to act like know-it-alls in the party.

Thanks, that’s really all I need to hear, although folks like you don’t need to apologize for what others say.

And to respond to GMA, basically what I’ve been saying this whole time: People who go after Sanders supporters and generalize about them as a whole, rather than specifying that it’s the Twitter crowd that bothers them. Or folks who need to rant about how terrible Sanders is every time he dares draw breath. Yes, most Biden supporters don’t do that (especially those who support Biden because they like the guy), but there are some who do, particularly among those who only support him to stop Sanders.

Either way, with the exception of a comment or two from Biden very early on, he hasn’t really been driving a divisive narrative, and I’m not going to hold him accountable for what other people say, but I do hope he extends an olive branch to progressives.

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To those that know the state well: Is there any doubt that Biden will win WA in the end?

The only way Sanders could win would be if the current vote is a random mix of early and (somewhat) later votes, and there are still some early ballots left to count. If what’s left is later ballots, Biden definitely wins.

I agree with you. As someone who has backed Biden since before he announced, I apologize for the people tearing Sanders down. Especially the former Republicans who want to act like know-it-alls in the party.

Thanks, that’s really all I need to hear, although folks like you don’t need to apologize for what others say.

And to respond to GMA, basically what I’ve been saying this whole time: People who go after Sanders supporters and generalize about them as a whole, rather than specifying that it’s the Twitter crowd that bothers them. Or folks who need to rant about how terrible Sanders is every time he dares draw breath. Yes, most Biden supporters don’t do that (especially those who support Biden because they like the guy), but there are some who do, particularly among those who only support him to stop Sanders.

Either way, with the exception of a comment or two from Biden very early on, he hasn’t really been driving a divisive narrative, and I’m not going to hold him accountable for what other people say, but I do hope he extends an olive branch to progressives.

I go to a pretty big university and I am getting harassed for being a Biden supporter.

"Boo! Boo!"

"Traitor! Traitor!"

"What the #### is wrong with you!"

Other Biden supporters (at my University) don't even dare tell many other people.

I do not defend Sanders supporters harassing you or anyone else simply for supporting Biden. Anyone who does that as an asshole and not helping Sanders.

I’ve gotten many eye rolls, a lot of condescending comments like “you’re one of those Bernie Bros, eh?”, “he can’t win” or “you have to understand how politics works” comments from people who know far less about politics than me. Will GMA disavow?

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What about Washington?

We should get an update in the afternoon.

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Sanders actually seems to be catching up a bit in later ballots (he took the lead again in Jefferson, and might retake the lead in King), but there’s just not that much left to count. If he keeps catching up, this could end up within 1%, but it probably ends up around the margin it is right now.