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« on: June 15, 2018, 09:47:41 AM »

I get why Democrats in more conservative territory are disavowing Pelosi, but it kind of annoys me that Republicans are allowed to get away with marching in lockstep behind Ryan/McConnell no matter how Democratic their district/state is, even though some polls show them as even more unpopular than Pelosi. It just strikes me as buying into and surrendering against a GOP narrative, when you could instead use their own tactics against them.

In fact, the only time you see Republicans disavowing Ryan/McConnell is in primaries because they're deemed as Soros-funded globalist cocaine snorting RINOs, lol.

It’s just another example of how Republicans are more adept at controlling the narrative, and forcing Democrats to posture themselves in awkward ways to try and get votes. They do this with many issues. They “warn” Americans that Democrats want to take their guns away, raise taxes on everyone, have open borders, etc. And what do Democrats do? They run scared/back away. “No, no, I fully support the second amendment! I want to lower taxes on almost everyone! I agree, we do have to protect our borders!” While Republicans never deny/cower away from the fact that they fully support the NRA and will do nothing to directly address our gun crisis, lower taxes on the wealthy, and deport millions. It’s no wonder Democrats are seen as spineless and lacking in any principles. Republicans dominated the narrative on gay marriage for decades, and Democrats let them do it (how many Democrats said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman” before public opinion polls showed support for gay marriage at 50%?)

Democrats need to grow a pair and not allow Republicans to dominate the narrative by turning Democratic positions/politicians (or even just words sometimes) into boogeymen. They should wear Republican attacks on their ideas as a badge of honor, and stand up for them while showing that they work.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2018, 01:09:20 PM »

JMC poll:

Balderson (R) 46%
O'Connor (R) 35%

Also in the district:

Brown 42%
Renacci 36%

DeWine 42%
Cordray 41%

Trump approval: 54/40

Hard to believe that O’Connor would underperform by so much, but if this poll is accurate, it’s great for Cordray as well, since he’s almost certainly ahead statewide if he’s only down 1 in OH-12.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 05:36:27 PM »

This is looking like it'll be very close. I think O'Connor could very well pull it off, but I'm going to say Balderson wins 49-48 as my final prediction, just so not to get my hopes up too much.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2018, 02:25:53 PM »
« Edited: August 07, 2018, 02:39:38 PM by Brittain33 »


Jeez, we get it, you want to be the next LimoLiberal, now give it a rest.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2018, 04:10:44 PM »

I know we got some other primaries today, do any of them close before this race? Cause if they do it'd be fun to have something to watch.

OH: 07:30
MO: 08:00
MI: 09:00
KS: 09:00
WA: 11:00


Results from Washington will take a while, since we vote by mail.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2018, 05:19:36 PM »

Here we go again Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 05:32:56 PM »

It's funny if you go back and read the PA-18 election day thread how many times the thread consensus went from "Lambslide" to "Saccone has this" over and over again, lol.

Watch how this will happen

3% in: O'Connor 56, Balderson 43

Atlas: O'Connor has this! Blue wave imminent!

4% in: O'Connor 54, Balderson 45

Atlas: Oh my god, O'Connor's sinking like a rock! Balderson's gonna win by double digits!
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 06:42:45 PM »

OMG!!!!! O'Connorslide! Cordrayslide! But if his lead shrinks with the next vote dump, Balderson's got this.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2018, 06:51:04 PM »

Portman should probably retire in 2022 #DarkBlueOH
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2018, 06:56:22 PM »

It’s tightening, Balderson winning Muskingum 61-38. Good news for Barrasso?

Likely D - > Lean D, imo
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2018, 07:01:04 PM »

Oh god, not the needle...
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2018, 07:33:48 PM »

This is based on 6 precincts in Franklin, not all of the ED vote. Chill, guys.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2018, 07:55:40 PM »

Licking county isn't looking good for O'Connor, but there's still a lot of votes left in Franklin. It's probably going to come down to Delaware.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2018, 08:48:44 PM »

Honestly, we might not have a winner until absentee ballots are counted.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2018, 08:57:58 PM »

Balderson will almost certainly be ahead when the election day votes are finished, but by how much? If it's less than 200, there's still a chance that O'Connor can win from provisional ballots, albeit a slim one.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2018, 09:08:33 PM »

Not as good of a result for Democrats as many of us were hoping, but on par with a massive swing toward the Dems in the Midwest. A 10% shift statewide in Ohio flips it.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2018, 09:42:57 PM »

Christ what a horrible performance! And in a district where our nominee did so well not too long ago. Damn, this is not good. We're gonna have to do much better than this in November. I can't believe that we couldn't take the 12th...I mean, my god...we couldn't win Murtha's old seat.

I think we need to reevaluate our prospects after this loss...maybe the Midwest and MidAtlantic is just not responding to our message.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania%27s_12th_congressional_district_special_election,_201)

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/026/832/jeongtweet.jpg

Who woulda thunk the Midwest would not respond to the message? Deplorables!

So do you actually have any evidence this had any impact whatsoever or are you just throwing that out there to be snarky?

Can you de-Mod him? A troll should not be a mod.
leave Beet alone!

Or, better yet, put him on ignore. Not worth engaging with him.
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2018, 02:35:35 AM »

Given how close this race was, it’s safe to say a Heitkamp ad/campaign appearance or a Pearl Jam rock concert with Tester would have swung it in favor or O’Connor. Missed opportunity for Democrats.

Maybe, but Balderson could've responded by courting Unbeatable Titan Dean Heller's endorsement, which would easily have given him a 30-point boost.
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