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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,917
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E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2015, 12:12:57 AM »

Okay. Let's settle this. Every anti gun person here besides ag who is paranoid. What do you propose we do in terms of gun laws? At this point we are arguing in circles.

Everything bedstuy just said, plus....

-Expand background checks
-Mental health exams
-Re-instate the Assault Weapons Ban
-Invest in smart gun technology
-Require gun training classes for first time gun purchasers

1. Sure
2. First time purchasers in a high crime area only
3. Didn't work the first time. Real assault weapons have been banned for over 80 years now! There's no legally binding term for assault weapon, only an arbitrary list of weapons that look scary
4. Subsidize all you want, nobody wants them
5. Seems like a waste of resources considering criminals that are prone to crime won't attend them after obtaining their weapon illegally.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2015, 12:26:56 AM »

Okay. Let's settle this. Every anti gun person here besides ag who is paranoid. What do you propose we do in terms of gun laws? At this point we are arguing in circles.

Everything bedstuy just said, plus....

-Expand background checks
-Mental health exams
-Re-instate the Assault Weapons Ban
-Invest in smart gun technology
-Require gun training classes for first time gun purchasers

1. Sure
2. First time purchasers in a high crime area only
3. Didn't work the first time. Real assault weapons have been banned for over 80 years now! There's no legally binding term for assault weapon, only an arbitrary list of weapons that look scary
4. Subsidize all you want, nobody wants them
5. Seems like a waste of resources considering criminals that are prone to crime won't attend them after obtaining their weapon illegally.

2) I would not stop there at all. You assume that all people who commit crime are mentally ill. I guarantee you rival gang members in inner cities don't shoot each other up because they're mentally ill.
3) They have no place in America. They belong on the battlefield, not in our communities.
4) I should have clarified: make them mandatory.
5) Then law enforcement will deal with them accordingly. Training classes are about preventing people who legally purchase guns from accidentally shooting their eye out or accidentally shooting someone else.

2. At least your heart is in the right place
3. They don't have to have a reason to exist. It's their right to own them. True military weapons have been banned from civilian possession for years. An AWB would just ban pistol grips essentially.
4. Nobody wants them. Period. They are also low caliber, but if you'd make them just as powerful and let people decide then what to own, then we'd talk.
5. That's what the community is for in my eyes, but again, heart in the right place
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2015, 12:36:06 AM »

Perhaps instead of making classes mandatory for new buyers, incentivize the States to replace gym classes with actually useful skills like shooting and other such things
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2015, 05:48:31 PM »

Ban all guns. Just like the rest of the world.

The American fixation with guns is weird.

Yeah!  the Second Amendment and the spirit this country was founded upon! Banning something will make them all go away! Ask the drug cartels!
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2015, 11:07:55 PM »

Number of tough guys on the internet who believe that more people should have guns in order to prevent gun violence: A gazillion


Number of said tough guys who actually have the balls (or is retarded enough) to carry a gun out in the open and be one of those people:

...............

And how may you know this? It is proven that areas with more civilian guns have lower crime rates.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2015, 11:11:32 PM »

Number of tough guys on the internet who believe that more people should have guns in order to prevent gun violence: A gazillion


Number of said tough guys who actually have the balls (or is retarded enough) to carry a gun out in the open and be one of those people:

...............

And how may you know this? It is proven that areas with more civilian guns have lower crime rates.

Are you one of those people who openly carries a gun into a public place? 

Don't have a Maine permit yet
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2015, 11:23:15 AM »

Number of tough guys on the internet who believe that more people should have guns in order to prevent gun violence: A gazillion


Number of said tough guys who actually have the balls (or is retarded enough) to carry a gun out in the open and be one of those people:

...............

And how may you know this? It is proven that areas with more civilian guns have lower crime rates.

Repeating it many times does not make it a proof.





Yes look at all those Southern States, with their strict gun laws!  Damn Democrats!  

This is not a fair analysis. The rates are concentrated in urban areas, which all of these red states do indeed have. It isn't fair to say that New Orleans' murder rate represents all of Louisiana, etc
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2015, 07:43:18 AM »

Number of tough guys on the internet who believe that more people should have guns in order to prevent gun violence: A gazillion


Number of said tough guys who actually have the balls (or is retarded enough) to carry a gun out in the open and be one of those people:

...............

And how may you know this? It is proven that areas with more civilian guns have lower crime rates.

Are you one of those people who openly carries a gun into a public place?  

Don't have a Maine permit yet

Ahhhhh.  But when you do, you'll carry that gun wherever you go?

Still waiting for a response. 

Indeed I will
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