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« on: December 04, 2018, 01:50:08 PM »
« edited: December 04, 2018, 01:53:19 PM by ¢®🅰ß 🦀 ©@k€ 🎂 »

Atlas is so funny sometimes. If you people had been around in the French Revolution, you'd all be screeching that people "didn't understand" the reasoning behind the Estates General. In fact, we understand the senate perfectly: it was a compromise with a faction of the American elite most afraid of democracy and losing their power (as well as the elite of smaller states worried about being crowded out, a stance which makes no sense in the modern United States). In no other democratic country is the legislative chamber explicitly designed as an anti democratic force given superior status to the actually democratic chamber. At the very least, the senate should be hobbled of its power.

(Also the vague post hoc excuse that the senate somehow protects rural areas is extremely unconvincing)
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 07:18:45 PM »

When did people start bringing up post-coup government reformation fantasies as legit political platforms?

Fwiw I have long held this opinion, even before the Dems lost the senate in 2014. I'm a democratic fundamentalist, and think that all countries should work under democratic, one person one vote systems. I recognise that this is not a likely change (and it would be a mistake for the American left to focus too much on the issue due to the optics); but to me the senate has always been a stain on America's democratic status.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2018, 08:27:09 AM »

If the left is so obsessed with "majority rules" then why are they obsessed with minorities? Transgendered people make up a scant 0.03% of our U.S. population. Yet liberals focus a dramatic amount of effort. Shouldn't they be more focused on the majority over a scant minority?

Isn't it your lot that make so much political hay out of scaremongering "bathroom bills"?
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