United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership

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My prediction from the beginning was for Remain to be winning until some SHOCK POLLS showed Leave ahead causing Remain to flip out and throw the kitchen sink, causing a fair but still close win for Remain. I'm right up till now

Of course, about the only thing I can say for certainty is panic and chaos either way - it's a self-fulfilling policy at this stage.
The political ramifications will be mad - I don't think a modern cabinet has ever had so much public feuds and name-calling in such a manner, and I highly doubt it will go away. I would not be surprised to see party defections, rebellions and further ramifications, no matter the result. Corbyn is a little safer, but who knows, maybe his relatively muted support for the EU will cause the soft left to get cold feet (or will it endear him to Gaitskell throwbacks?) Scotland will probably use it as an excuse to go if we Brexit (which begs the question - what if the UK would have brexited without Scotland's votes?) What a mess.

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My prediction from the beginning was for Remain to be winning until some SHOCK POLLS showed Leave ahead causing Remain to flip out and throw the kitchen sink, causing a fair but still close win for Remain. I'm right up till now

In other words you were and are predicting a rerun of the Scotland Independence referendum.

Correct! The campaigns are pretty similar as well.

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The worst of both worlds, lol.

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When was the last assisinated sittingmember of parliament in Europe?

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But any further integration has to be done via referendum legally. There is no chance of being whisked into the (((superstate))) without our consent.

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MoS is a more "upmarket" rag than its daily sister. Also the editors hate each other.

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Looking at age breakdowns, I bet Cameron is regretting not lowering the voting age for this one.

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Well, this is exactly the kind of patronising bullsh**t floating around my fb feed that eventually made me swing back to voting leave after briefly flirting with voting to remain (because I highly doubt that the referendum will be so close as to hinge on one vote). I mean, the idea that our leaving the EU will mean we cease to be a 'big player' (whatever that means) in the world is rather specious to say the least, given that we will continue to have one of the largest armies and independent nuclear deterrents in the west, one of the largest financial services centres in the world, a permanent seat on the UN Security Council and representation in the G8 and G20.

 As for being a 'big player' in Europe, I think our weak position in Europe has largely been exposed by this referendum campaign - Cameron's much vaunted renegotiation of our relationship with the EU turned out to be a damp squib, and even the 'concessions' extracted there are the absolute maximum that we'll be able to wring from the EU, according to Jean Claude Juncker at least. We've also signed away our control over our own trade policy as a member of the EU (a fact that, ironically, pushed me towards the Remain camp, as our existing trade deals through the EU will be rendered null and void by leaving) and control over various other areas of policy that should be in the hands of the British policy (although not to the extent that the Leave campaign has made out). We've always had what amounts to an adversarial relationship with the EU, remaining (correctly in my view) outside of key developments in that institution over the years (the Euro and Schengen to name but two), which has also reduced our influence in Europe, as we are correctly perceived as not being fully committed to the European project. This will not change in the aftermath of the referendum, one way or another.

Boiling important political discussion down to silly and patronising memes isn't really helpful, especially when those memes put across points that are basically blatant fabrications.

You changed your vote because of Facebook memes?

It woz the memes wot won it

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The arguments about the Commonwealth waiting with baited breath for the UK to come rule us again are dumb. Paraphrasing but it seems to be basically "Yes, if we leave the EU, we'll be leaving the biggest trading block in the world, but then we can refocus on the billions of people in the Commonwealth!"

Yeah. Nah. Get f'd. You made your bed when you embraced the EU over the Commonwealth, now you get to lie in it, or build a new one, but your old one is gone.

I'm sure grassroots Brexiters will be thrilled at the prospect of open borders with Jamaica, Kenya and Pakistan though.

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Just met NICK CLEGG


YEAH BOI

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Congrats David Cameron whose legacy is on par with Lord North. So long Scotland! so long UK being considered a mature and sensible economy!! We had to ibg throw it all down the fuxk sink because of the feelzzz of the Brexitans and their depraved TrueLefy cousins. I bet George Galloway is feeling so great about  himself ugh squeezing up to evey fascist ratcase to boost his ing ego. ugh when the NHS is asset stripped away I bet that tusc will feel sooo great that they defeated the neoliberal Jews or whatever, anti semitic trash.

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Isn't NI supposed to be pro-remain?

ing Protestants

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Lol apparently Chris Bryant is blaming the results on Milliband.

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Ugh Vince Cable is boring atm

Glad Brexit have decided to sink the economy for the sake of muh borders and muh feelings. Cheers you bell ends

The economic scaremongering is just a self-fulfilling prophecy that the globalists are trying their best to make a reality.

Piss off anti Semite

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It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Hopefully this means further integration for the remainder of Europe now that they are not weighed down by the UK.

Hardly,
 

Means Right parties from Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, France and others gain support.

Mama Merkel is surely going to pay for invinting 2 million guests to someone elses home.

And now the nazi!

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It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Hopefully this means further integration for the remainder of Europe now that they are not weighed down by the UK.

No it wont. Next: the nexit and the Frexit! Down with the EU Leviathan!

Bring on more nations leaving! *fingers crossed Brexit wins*

Putin senda his regards

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It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Hopefully this means further integration for the remainder of Europe now that they are not weighed down by the UK.

Hardly,
 

Means Right parties from Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, France and others gain support.

Mama Merkel is surely going to pay for invinting 2 million guests to someone elses home.

And now the nazi!

Lol at Extreme Leftie hahahhah, go get checked. Nazis killed my Great grandparents for being Slavs so please, you are not fit to comment on this.



When/if Brexit happens, Strache/Le Pen will have a field day with this.

We've all seen your vile views, scum.

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More to the point, this thing is hardly over yet, there's been a big swing back to Remain with results from university towns and London coming in.

True, but there's still the bulk of the SW and home Counties.

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Barking votes Leave

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Neither of which can exist without globalization.

Liberty simply cannot prevail where power is monopolized.

Of course. But globalization is the one effective tool against the monoply power that we have!

Globalization IS the monopoly.

Oh piss off. Yeah, being ed over by a guy with the same nationality as you is such freedom. You, like all your ilk, are anti-Semitic trash.

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Haringey, #EUref result:
Remain: 24.4% (25,855)
Leave: 75.6% (79,991)

Surely sum mistake??

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Congratulations to all those who are no doubt delighted: Putin shills, PRC bots, trots, fascists, Nazis, reprobates, people who plan on being dead in the next year, anti-Semites, peddlers of Violence, and those who despise Britain and wish to see the Perfidious Albion fail 

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Congratulations to all those who are no doubt delighted: Putin shills, PRC bots, trots, fascists, Nazis, reprobates, people who plan on being dead in the next year, anti-Semites, peddlers of Violence, and those who despise Britain and wish to see the Perfidious Albion fail 

You genuinely believe that a majority of the British people fall into these categories?

Effectively, yes.

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Congratulations to all those who are no doubt delighted: Putin shills, PRC bots, trots, fascists, Nazis, reprobates, people who plan on being dead in the next year, anti-Semites, peddlers of Violence, and those who despise Britain and wish to see the Perfidious Albion fail 

Thank you for brining out the inner Anti Democrat in you. You proved that you have no place in a Democratic society, as you have just called out 52% of Britain, you must be lonely.


Any result needs to be respected, and stop insulting people.

Oh, I'm no anti-democrat. We've made our bed (after the most astonishingly anti-intellextual, sectarian and opportunistic of campaigns of recent memory). It's up to us how we react to it.

We have been sold a huge lie, and in the process blown centuries of this countries' reputation as a sober and stable constant force. And Johnson Give etc will rue the day they thought such disgusting sentiments would be a helpful booster for their careers.

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Congratulations to all those who are no doubt delighted: Putin shills, PRC bots, trots, fascists, Nazis, reprobates, people who plan on being dead in the next year, anti-Semites etc

LOL!

Rrrrrrrule Britannia!

I dislike the idea someone like you who despises our country is singing Rule Britainia.