Historic U.S.-Iran nuclear deal could be taking shape

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I still can't fathom why Israel's programme is never brought up despite its endless bitching about Iran's nukes.

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Rather a glum perspective :/

Worldwide disarmament is not an impossibility. In fact it's increasingly vital, and the rouge states (including, regrettably, my own country) that still insist on keeping WMD's are increasingly embarrassing and dangerous.

I think the loathing between Israel and Iran is pretty much mutual, to be fair to the iranians.

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The idea that keeping nukes ensures ones safety is the same farcical thinking that brought us the NRA saying 'the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun'.

A lot of people seem to be under the impression that this logic can be used to justify the keeping of nuclear arsenals. Fact is, the so-called 'nuclear peace' is a highly dangerous situation - they are dangerous, liable to attack and sabotage, promote further proliferation and consume responses that could be used on conventional arms.

Sure, it would be hard to rid China and Russia of their stockpiles (although they are legally obliged to get rid of them), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't work hard at ending nuclear arms, the same way we ended other WMD's. Followed by , of course, the extreme regulation of fissile materials (part of the reason I'm highly sceptical of the supposed rush to nuclear that is supposed to end fossil fuels).

@politicus, but nukes haven't made either india or Pakistan safer ... That's the key problem. They just uselessly raise the stakes and provide more ways anti-state terrorists can acquire materials to make dirty bombs.

I do wonder about the Iranian population's actual feelings towards Israel. They do seem a lot more mellow than Khameni and his goons.

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Everyone and their mothers had a nuclear programme at one time. Frickin Sweden had one.