Any modern day classical liberals?

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Hawk, I don't know how much you read on the IE board, but do any of these parties strike your fancy?

- The D66 of the Netherlands
- The FDP of Germany
- The Liberal Alliance of Denmark
- ACT of New Zealand

(unrelated, the only self-described "libertarian" parties (that I can name off the top of my head) that has achieved national representation is the Lib Dems of Australia and the Libertarians in Costa Rica, of all places)

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I'm not too sure about the Liberal Alliance, but I think we can distinguish between the classical liberal parties of Europe like FDP and US-style Libertarians. The former are more establishment friendly pro-business parties who drain their support from the upper-middle class; while the Paul movement (as I see it) is much younger, disparate and anti-establishmentary.

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I'm not too sure about the Liberal Alliance, but I think we can distinguish between the classical liberal parties of Europe like FDP and US-style Libertarians. The former are more establishment friendly pro-business parties who drain their support from the upper-middle class; while the Paul movement (as I see it) is much younger, disparate and anti-establishmentary.

Yes, but the actual policy content is mostly quite similar if you weed out the many parties (and factions of parties) that are de facto just Conservatives in anything but name. Moderate Libertarian and Classical Liberal seems to cover identical ideologies. It is just that Libertarianism is connected with being radical, so a lot of people seem reluctant to self identify as a Moderate Libertarian.

I still think there is a tangible difference between the two labels though. Like the Classical liberal says "I must lower taxes to encourage business", while the libertarian says "I must cut taxes, because I am morally obligated to do so."