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« on: November 28, 2014, 12:35:55 AM »
« edited: November 30, 2014, 01:48:53 PM by CrabCake »

Worst:

1) Andrew Johnson
2) Richard Nixon
3) James Buchanan
4) Franklin Pierce
5) George W. Bush
6) Warren Harding
7) Rutherford Hayes
8 ) John Tyler
9) Andrew Jackson
10) James Madison

Special mentions: Coolidge for sitting around and doing nothing, Hoover for the silly tariff, those who managed to dumbly kill themselves by not wearing coats or eating too many cherries, B. Harrison for the coddling business, Clinton for being more concerned about getting laid than running the country, Wilson for so so much etc.

Best:

1) Abraham Lincoln
2) Franklin Roosevelt
3) George Washington
4) Thomas Jefferson
5) Theodore Roosevelt
6) Dwight Eisenhower
7) James Monroe
8 ) Lyndon B Johnson
9) Chester A Arthur
10) Harry Truman

Special Mention: Taft, Obama and Garfield.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2014, 02:18:10 AM »

Obviously every person does these lists on their own metric. Some look into the wider career and personality of the presidents beyond their term in influence, which favours influential people who had lousy Presidencies like JQA and Madison. Others focus on the influence the president, which boosts people like Jackson and Polk. And you can of course rank them through the lens of ideology - whether it be libertarian or conservatism or socialism.  All that said, I can't fathom outofbox's list at all. How is it actually possible to put Carter or Bush II on a top ten list? I mean what is it about Dubya that could make anyone think "Yes, this man definitely tops Monroe/Truman/Eisenhower. Heck, I can't see an argument for him besting very middling Presidents like Taft or Adams or Coolidge.

@ElectionsGuy; which AJ are you referring to?
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 12:43:22 PM »

What's wrong with Arthur? Abolished the spoils system, simplified and cut tariffs, watered down and. supported the Readjusters and attacked the anti-Chinese xenophobic bills passed by Congress.  Definitely the most underrated Presidents by a long shot.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 02:10:32 PM »

"Civil Service reform" was, in that period, code for throwing all of the blacks out of federal jobs.

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 06:38:56 PM »

What's wrong with Arthur? Abolished the spoils system, simplified and cut tariffs, watered down and. supported the Readjusters and attacked the anti-Chinese xenophobic bills passed by Congress.  Definitely the most underrated Presidents by a long shot.
Never mind, then.  You make some good points, so I'll edit that.  But even if he attacked the Chinese exclusion bills, didn't he sign them?

From what I know he vetod the original bill that banned immigration for twenty years, then signed a watered down "compromise" in a regrettable bit of Moderate Heroism.
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