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Saint Milei
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« on: June 18, 2020, 08:40:44 PM »

And by immigration hawks, I mean the cultural conservatives. Not the cruz types
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2020, 02:52:55 AM »

Why don’t you think the Cruz types are cultural conservatives? If anyone was the champion of cultural conservatism it was Ted Cruz.

When I think of a cultural conservative, I think of someone like Pat Buchanan, Paul Gottfried, Hawley/Cotton (to a lesser extent), and members of the alt right. Ted Cruz is clearly very socially conservative, but there's a difference between being socially conservative and culturally conservative. You can obviously be both. A cultural conservative is also more likely to be a paleoconservative.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2020, 06:42:53 AM »

Why don’t you think the Cruz types are cultural conservatives? If anyone was the champion of cultural conservatism it was Ted Cruz.

When I think of a cultural conservative, I think of someone like Pat Buchanan, Paul Gottfried, Hawley/Cotton (to a lesser extent), and members of the alt right. Ted Cruz is clearly very socially conservative, but there's a difference between being socially conservative and culturally conservative. You can obviously be both. A cultural conservative is also more likely to be a paleoconservative.

I guess, but at the same time, I don't know what other label really makes sense for someone like me. On the other hand, I only even somewhat like 1 of those politicians. Maybe if we had some more specific definitions?

Cultural conservatism deals with the heritage of a nation, the identity, tradition, etc. Very few current politicians address this. To be completely honest, cultural conservatism deals with a lot of the alt right's concerns

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