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Zinneke
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« on: June 04, 2023, 05:12:52 AM »



In which an ex-Brussels regional MP becomes an Erddogan minister.

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Zinneke
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2023, 01:01:12 AM »



In which an ex-Brussels regional MP becomes an Erddogan minister.



She was a member of a christian democratic party in Belgium....

...and was expelled in 2015 for Armenian Genocide denial

By then the francophone christian democrats were an amalgamation of several religious and civil society interest groups and even changed their name to centre démocate Humaniste.

However once Benoit Lutgen took over from Joelle Milquet who was the architect of inviting the islamic democrats into the party, he did not like these types and even asked this Erdoganist in question not to show up at his opening press conference due to her hijab (allegedly).


In which an ex-Brussels regional MP becomes an Erddogan minister.



She was a member of a christian democratic party in Belgium...

...and was expelled in 2015 for Armenian Genocide denial

It's concerning how the overseas diaspora has become politicized. The US and Canada seem to have handled this issue better, possibly due to differences in their immigrants' demographics and financial backgrounds compared to those in Europe.

It also has to do with the fact that European countries let state actors like Turkey and Morrocco maintain influence with their diaspora, intimidating them into following the groupthink, running their own state run mosques that promulagate the propaganda of the incumbent, etc. And European internal intelligence services would rather have a good relationship with Morroccan and Turkish intelligence than crack down on this practice and protect what are now 3rd generation immigrants who are our citizens! This ofc happens too with e.g. the Chinese but they are not as large a minority or as vocally controversial.

I wouldn't be surprised if this person, just like the mayor of Saint-Joss, is a spy herself though.
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Zinneke
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2023, 10:52:23 AM »



In which an ex-Brussels regional MP becomes an Erddogan minister.



She was a member of a christian democratic party in Belgium....

...and was expelled in 2015 for Armenian Genocide denial

By then the francophone christian democrats were an amalgamation of several religious and civil society interest groups and even changed their name to centre démocate Humaniste.

However once Benoit Lutgen took over from Joelle Milquet who was the architect of inviting the islamic democrats into the party, he did not like these types and even asked this Erdoganist in question not to show up at his opening press conference due to her hijab (allegedly).


In which an ex-Brussels regional MP becomes an Erddogan minister.



She was a member of a christian democratic party in Belgium...

...and was expelled in 2015 for Armenian Genocide denial

It's concerning how the overseas diaspora has become politicized. The US and Canada seem to have handled this issue better, possibly due to differences in their immigrants' demographics and financial backgrounds compared to those in Europe.

It also has to do with the fact that European countries let state actors like Turkey and Morrocco maintain influence with their diaspora, intimidating them into following the groupthink, running their own state run mosques that promulagate the propaganda of the incumbent, etc. And European internal intelligence services would rather have a good relationship with Morroccan and Turkish intelligence than crack down on this practice and protect what are now 3rd generation immigrants who are our citizens! This ofc happens too with e.g. the Chinese but they are not as large a minority or as vocally controversial.

I wouldn't be surprised if this person, just like the mayor of Saint-Joss, is a spy herself though.


If Germany had sensible immigration laws (including birthright citizenship), there wouldn't be any "third-generation Turkish immigrants" voting in Turkish elections. They would have assimilated into German society and not be Turkish citizens.

I don't believe in stripping dual nationality, I'm a dual national myself. but I do believe spying on one country on behalf of another is a crime and that the whole integration model many others in Europe adopted totally failed and that the first victims are the people born here but raised into those communities.

Stripping dual nationality is a solution looking for a problem. The Dutch stripped it it doesn't stop the Morroccans there at all having their intelligence services bully them.
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