2023 Chicago Mayoral/Aldermanic Elections

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Lightfoot can be defeated and she should.

Who is the most conservative mayoral candidate?

Who can appeal to all wings of Chicagoans?

[Suburbia]

Who is the most conservative mayoral candidate?

Depends on what you mean by “conservative,” but there's three leading contenders. Former CPS CEO Paul Vallas is an advocate for charter schools and other fiscally conservative measures. Willie Wilson is a devout Christian with a strong base among older black churchgoers. And Alderman Ray Lopez is probably the closest to your brand of conservatism.

Do you think Lopez could win?

I think he can cobble a coalition of blacks/Latinos and ethnic whites....if Sposato, O'Shea and Napolitano support him

[Suburbia]

Who is the most conservative mayoral candidate?

Depends on what you mean by “conservative,” but there's three leading contenders. Former CPS CEO Paul Vallas is an advocate for charter schools and other fiscally conservative measures. Willie Wilson is a devout Christian with a strong base among older black churchgoers. And Alderman Ray Lopez is probably the closest to your brand of conservatism.

Do you think Lopez could win?

I think he can cobble a coalition of blacks/Latinos and ethnic whites....if Sposato, O'Shea and Napolitano support him

After Daley's failure to make it to the second round in 2019, I doubt it. His fundraising hasn't been great and he'll split those votes with Vallas. The black vote will mostly stick with Lightfoot or Wilson, and the bulk of Mexicans will vote for Chuy.

If Lightfoot wins again, do you see businesses leaving Chicago en masse? It seems she is not a good mayor and a lot of jobs will leave Chicago and go to DuPage, etc.

Also, regardless of who wins, Chicago police commissioner David Brown should retire. He had a burned out decade. From Dallas's police shooting in 2016 to the Chicago crime wave, I am sure he has had enough.

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Raymond Lopez dropped out.

I can see something similar to what happened in the 2001 NYC mayoral election pre-9/11.

A Black-Latino coalition between Wilson/Lightfoot/Garcia people about who to endorse....

Vallas gets all the white ethnics.

In '01 before 9/11, Al Sharpton made a deal to endorse Latino Freddy Ferrer over Jewish Mark Green, who was cutting into Ferrer's base of Black and Latinos....

9/11 happened and the rest is history, white ethnics+25 percent of Blacks+30%-40% of Latinos elected Republican Mike Bloomberg....

Garcia could get a lot of Black votes....

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https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicago-mayoral-election-new-poll-shows-lightfoot-trailing-garcia-vallas

Wow!

Chewy - 28
Vallas - 19
Leadfoot - 15
Crazy Willie - 13

Vallas is surging because of crime, a lot of the white ethnic cops and firefighters are probably for Vallas or Willie...

Lightfoot could win a second term, but it will be tough.

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Paul Vallas is endorsed by the Chicago police union, which is not a surprise since he is trying to appeal to the remaining moderate and conservative white and Latino voters in the city...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/elections/ct-chicago-police-union-fop-endorse-vallas-20230107-dwkgf2h6lbdqhoxhpqxcpsphpq-story.html

Ja'Mal Green has a pretty good plan for the city....I won't be surprised if the final five are Lightfoot, Garcia, Wilson, Green and Vallas. Any one can win.

But if Green is mayor, he'll spar with Aldermen Napolitano and Sposato.

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But if Green is mayor, he'll spar with Aldermen Napolitano and Sposato.

Bronz, please acquaint yourself with Alderman Tabares, the real queen of CPD.  Sposato is old news.

Is she a rising star?

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Looks like Lori Lightfoot is doomed for good?

Is there an impeachment process for the mayor?

https://twitter.com/HeatherCherone/status/1613310494558806017?s=20&t=GMuCf9v...

You're not supposed to do that, but I can see a Republican city mayor forcing every cop and firefighter to vote for him/her and every Republican president telling a service member to vote for them. It's not appropriate, but I don't think it warrants impeachment.

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Is there an impeachment process for the mayor?

https://twitter.com/HeatherCherone/status/1613310494558806017?s=20&t=GMuCf9v...

Inexcusable. She will do anything to win.

What's the deal? I don't see what she did wrong. You don't think Giuliani did this with the NYPD in 1997?

[Suburbia]

Lightfoot just has not been a good mayor, she has no political future after this basically. She is made fun of physically by the right and some on the left....

She could still win if she cobbles support from Black voters and white liberals and a slice of Latinos...

We will see.

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How can Vallas win with police brutality back in the news?

It's most likely Johnson or Garcia that will win this thing

[Suburbia]

How can Vallas win with police brutality back in the news?

It's most likely Johnson or Garcia that will win this thing

I went back and listened to an interview I heard him do in early 2022. At least at that time his point was that:
1. poor police leadership and organization leads to fewer police officers;
2. which leads to overworked and stressed out police officers;
3. which also leads to less appeal to apply to become a police officer;
4. which leads to poor candidates being hired because the high-quality candidates have no interest;
5. which results in poorly qualified candidates working long shifts in a poor mental state;
6. which finally leads to these worn down, poor quality cops either not doing their job or abusing their power.

I mean, as someone who has said "ACAB" previously, that message really resonated with me. There is a serious universal problem with racism in policing. But only focusing on that will not eradicate all the issues we face on that. Having high-quality cops who aren't overworked will help them do their jobs better and will help prevent nasty situations from unfolding.

Now, I don't know how well Vallas is doing in getting the position that I received well out to the voting public. But if he is doing that well, then I think recent events won't negatively affect him.

Which means he probably will fire David Brown, who was actually better in Dallas than he was in Chicago.

He can't hire a white guy like Ray Kelly or Garry McCarthy, he has to hire someone who can relate to people.

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Vallas recieved money from one of the former cops involved in the 2014 police killing of Laquan McDonald, which led to Rahm Emanuel having a lackluster second term...

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/paul-vallas-received-campaign-contribution-from-ex-officer-in-laquan-mcdonald-scandal/3062993/

Whoever wins, Chicago will be mired in crime and problems. The Chicago Bears left the city today, moving to Arlington Heights, a suburb.

Shows that owners don't care for the community, the Packers don't do that, they are a nonprofit, public owned corporation.

If Lightfoot wins reelection, a lot of Chicago cops will walk off the force.

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Vallas recieved money from one of the former cops involved in the 2014 police killing of Laquan McDonald, which led to Rahm Emanuel having a lackluster second term...

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/paul-vallas-received-campaign-contribution-from-ex-officer-in-laquan-mcdonald-scandal/3062993/

Whoever wins, Chicago will be mired in crime and problems. The Chicago Bears left the city today, moving to Arlington Heights, a suburb.

Shows that owners don't care for the community, the Packers don't do that, they are a nonprofit, public owned corporation.

If Lightfoot wins reelection, a lot of Chicago cops will walk off the force.

What the national media has done to our city’s reputation is a tragedy.

Chicago, like NYC and Atlanta, other big cities have a lot of problems.

Vallas is seen as a cop bootlicker, Giuliani of the 2020s and his mayoralty will see most likely tension....Lightfoot is meh...

Brandon Johnson, JaMal Green should be given a chance.

[Suburbia]

Honestly, I was originally pulling for Chuy but after he endorsed Rossana Rodriguez's very questionable opponent I'm hoping Brandon Johnson can pull something off, no matter how unlikely it seems from what I know of the race's current dynamics. Just don't let it be Vallas or Lightfoot.

90+% chance it will be one of them at this point IMO

Who are you holding out hope for? Chuy? Johnson?

I’m probably going to vote for Chuy. I’m pretty uninspired by the field, though. Interested to see which two we end up with and then decide between them.

Brandon Johnson is a hard no from me. Take a look at his tax plan. It’s kooky.

What about Jamal Green?

[Suburbia]

Really disappointing candidates and disgusting campaign this year all around. Can't believe I practically want Rahm back despite all the slimy stuff. Nobody in this race comes even close to his caliber. At this point it's just minimizing the damage and trying again in 2027.

Rahm was a disgrace--especially with the McDonald coverup. His actions led to Kim Foxx, etc.

Chicago has to live with the choices.

[Suburbia]

Lettuce pray that O’Shea loses in the 19th Ward.  The good people of Mount Greenwood are not happy with him.

And on the Northside, Lightfoot’s twink Knudsen needs to go down.

Why? O'Shea is a moderate Democrat....if he is not good enough for them, then they are truly far right people...

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Did the notorious right wing Ricketts family, who owns the Cubs, make any endorsements? Usually sports ownership endorses politicians so they can keep or relocate their franchise out of the city....

[Suburbia]

Lori is gone.

Bitter end for her career politically, she may want to come back in 2027....

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Just checked out the campaign website for Paul Vallas and I gotta say, I like the guy. I appreciate a law/order guy and a education guy.

You sure about that? Vallas is seen as too pro-police, a Giuliani 2.0 or an tragic accident waiting to happen

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Just checked out the campaign website for Paul Vallas and I gotta say, I like the guy. I appreciate a law/order guy and a education guy.

You sure about that? Vallas is seen as too pro-police, a Giuliani 2.0 or an tragic accident waiting to happen

Yes. Chicago has a serious crime problem. It had one before the nationwide crime surge, which made things even worst. Neighborhoods that aren't use to crime now have crime.

I am a teacher several states away. Chicago schools are known as the scariest place to work.

We need discipline in our schools and in our streets. If Chicago of all places elects him mayor, it shows what the people want

I don't think activists' hearts can take that. Vallas cannot bring back outdated stop and frisk, etc.

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If Brandon Johnson wins the runoff, do you see any tensions with him and the CPD? Do you see cops walking off the job, etc. since he is a defund guy?

[Suburbia]

Cities need a Giuliani/Bloomberg/Riordan/Schundler type sometimes.....Democratic policies lead to problems sometimes, you need balance, but you don't need stop and frisk and 41 bullets at unarmed people, etc.

Vallas needs to attract black men, especially older black men

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A Latino police officer was shot and killed yesterday, this will give Vallas an edge with Latino voters, a lot of Latino males are pro-police, Johnson will be seen as a facilitator of these police-community strain, since he wants to defund the police.

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-officer-shot-and-killed-cop-gage-park-in/12902742/

Vallas should politicize this death and make a contrast if he wants to win.

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Jesse White endorses Vallas for mayor, giving Vallas a lifeline to getting Black voters, especially older black male voters....


https://www.nbcchicago.com/chicago-mayoral-election-2023/jesse-white-endorses-paul-vallas-mayor/3085463/

Brandon Johnson can win if he promises to hire Val Demings as Chicago's next police commissioner....