UK General Discussion:The Rt. Hon Alex Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Populist Hero

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How does it feel to be an untitled commoner like Peter Phillips and Zara Tindall? Would anyone here want to be a member of British nobility/royalty/House of Lords?

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How does it feel to be an untitled commoner like Peter Phillips and Zara Tindall? Would anyone here want to be a member of British nobility/royalty/House of Lords?

I wouldn't personally mind a knighthood one day...

Oh. Do untitled British commoners like you and Mr Phillips and Mrs Tindall face pressure because you are not in the social class of The Queen, Charles, William, Kate, and Baroness Warsi, etc. or do you live your lives like an average middle class/working class commoners

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Is there any Home Depot in Britain?

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Is there any Home Depot in Britain?

It's called world wide web www

Fine, I will research on my own. I have not been to England in a long time, so I don't remember how the place is these days.

All I know is that they have a crazy caste system.......but there is rags to riches stories in Britain (Ozzy Osbourne, etc.)

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That’s some nostalgia. Haven’t heard that name since One Direction were on X factor.

The Osbournes split their time between U.S. and Britain, like their friend Piers Morgan and plenty other British Americans.....

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Is the British pro-life/antiabortion movement as strong and fierce as the American counterparts and what is the status of abortion rights in Britain? Is there any at all?

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Is the British pro-life/antiabortion movement as strong and fierce as the American counterparts and what is the status of abortion rights in Britain? Is there any at all?

It definitely exists, but nowhere near as strong. Abortion has been legal since 1967, although does require two doctors to sign off on it. No serious support for anything bar a reduction in maximum time from 24 weeks, which is very high by European standards, 12 being the norm.

Are the British Conservatives pro-life and Labor pro-choice, or is it different there?

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Who are the Manchin/Sinema/Collins/Murkowski of the British House of Commons?

I know there are centrist Labor and centrist Tories who are to the center of their partisan extremes......

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Prince William (the future King William V, if he chooses that name) could be the last monarch that Britain will ever have if Hilary Mantel is right:

British monarchy could be gone in two generations, says novelist Mantel

The British monarchy is an institution that was about duty and will now be about celebrity and tourist attractions......period.....

William V would be the last in a changing Britain--demographically speaking---Enoch Powell's nightmare and the current England men's football team's reality----most of the English players are immigrants or are Afro-British, British-Irish (Kane, Rice), etc.

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Britain had it's "own" 9/11, on July 7, 2005.....

Do you think Britain learned from 9/11 in the U.S. and 7/7?

Obviously immigration and national security was beefed up in the Blair and Brown ministries....

Tories run on immigration and national security every day..

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They "run on it" rather more than they actually do anything about it, though.

Well, most conservative parties around the world, like the GOP, the Canadian Tories and the British Tories have no other choice but to run on immigration and crime because it benefits them, basically.....

With Boris Johnson eyeing 10 more years in power, it is possible.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-eyes-another-decade-in-power-jp0chz9xl

Labor needs to get it's act together, Blair 2005 was the last victory for them and Blair is reviled in the party, they need to win in 2024 or 2029....

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What's he said against BLM and trans rights?

“‘Defund the police’ may be the left’s most damaging political slogan since ‘the dictatorship of the proletariat’. It leaves the right with an economic message which seems more practical and a powerful cultural message around defending flag, family and fireside traditional values.”

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/progressive-politics-is-facing-extinction-tony-blair-20210512-p57rek.html

Blair is a centrist, like Bill and Hillary, Joe Manchin, etc. Centrists worldwide are worried about the global Black Lives Matter movement's defund the police talk. It's driving up turnout in Western countries where conservatives like that talk...

Blair is unpopular, but he does make some sense. He and Bush have to live with their decisions regarding Iraq, Afghanistan and war....

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They "run on it" rather more than they actually do anything about it, though.

Well, most conservative parties around the world, like the GOP, the Canadian Tories and the British Tories have no other choice but to run on immigration and crime because it benefits them, basically.....

With Boris Johnson eyeing 10 more years in power, it is possible.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-eyes-another-decade-in-power-jp0chz9xl

Labor needs to get it's act together, Blair 2005 was the last victory for them and Blair is reviled in the party, they need to win in 2024 or 2029....

Why do you believe this, more than literally anything else he says?

And what is more, all the previous "in the know" accounts emphasise that he doesn't particularly like being PM and resents that it doesn't pay more.

I can think of some other "Johnson" close to him who likes being in Number 10 very much, though.

Maybe they were the actual "source" on this occasion

Johnson is power hungry enough to do so....

But I don't see anyone outmatching The Iron Lady or Blair.....

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We're living in a country where the police have been rather defunded, so that rhetoric doesn't work well. Does the British police need reform? Certainly. Does it need another funding cut, most certainly not.

Oh, they need reform. Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Mason Mount and other Premier League players' main goal is for that to be enacted, that's the whole purpose of the BLM campaign......

Priti Patel is a roadblock to that.....


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/12/patel-faces-widening-revolt-over-policing-bills-restrictions-on-protest

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I like how bronz has infested this thread with his posts.

I follow British politics and society a lot

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Sad news:

The mother of Boris Johnson has died.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/13/boris-johnsons-mother-charlotte-johnson-wahl-dies-at-79

Looks like Dominic Raab will be running the country for a while....

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Mr Tony's reputation is artificially depressed because of his embarrassing post-premiership antics and will rise quite a bit in the future (he'll move firmly into the Lloyd George/Wilson/Thatcher category), but the main reason why the process is so slow is that he cannot help but open his mouth every thirty seconds...

Of course, once you're the PM of a major fading power, there's generally nowhere to go but down.

ftfy

Also, I think Blair said one or two things during his time in office to ensure his everlasting ignominy.

What did you want Blair to do in 2002-2003? He would have gotten the ire of Bush and Cheney. That was the time, the 2000s was a warmongering period because of 9/11, 7/7 and Saddam.....

Blair-Brown had a good economy until 2006-07, but Blair's centrism can be repackaged under a different messenger, but without angering or alienating the Laborite base like BLM, Tyrone Mings and Dianne Abbott.....

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Mr Tony's reputation is artificially depressed because of his embarrassing post-premiership antics and will rise quite a bit in the future (he'll move firmly into the Lloyd George/Wilson/Thatcher category), but the main reason why the process is so slow is that he cannot help but open his mouth every thirty seconds...

It seems as though Tony Blair in retirement has decided to become the caricature his left-wing critics portrayed him as.

He is a center-left man. He won the Labor leadership in 1994 because Old Labor was losing elections, and New Labor won from 1997 to 2005....

A center-left government with strong social justice without virtue signalling can win.

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I was just thinking, can Brits here on Atlas see your fellow Brits revolting like rightwing Americans did on Jan 6 and try to overthrow the government?

Can Westminster be overthrown? Can you see something of that caliber happening in London? The subjects revolting against the elites?

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Are British Conservatives pro-police, pro-fire department as their American counterparts, or do they look down on those occupations because they are state-run jobs, government jobs?

Is there a Blue Lives Matter UK there?

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White men have been urged not to “dominate” speaking slots at Labour Party conference.

During a debate on housing and transport, the chairman of the session noted the people putting their hands up to contribute did “not reflect the diversity” of those in the hall.

Mark Ferguson, a member of Labour’s National Executive Committee, told delegates in Brighton: “I am afraid, and I am not speaking from a position of particular strength here, there are too many white men putting their hands up.”

To laughter, he added: “I am not anti-white men, some of my favourite people are – my dad’s a white man.

“But I do not want white men to exclusively dominate this or any other debate at this conference and following on from my comrade in the chair this morning, I do wish to see the diversity of the hall reflected.

“I’m not putting anybody on the spot here, but if you want to speak do not be afraid to put your hand up, we want to hear from you, this is an inclusive conference.”

The member chairing each session asks those in attendance if they wish to speak and chooses people from those who have their hands raised.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/too-many-white-men-putting-their-hands-up-to-speak-labour-delegates-told/132622

This stuff is the reason why Malan and Enoch Powell and Strom Thurmond ruled right wing race issues for so long and Labour is now in it....

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Labour has the problem every one of its leaders has been a white man. Or white-passing in Ed Miliband's case. A BAME Tory leader looks quite likely in the near future; the highest ranking such figure in Labour is David Lammy, the Shadow Justice Secretary.

Why hasn't Diane Abbott get far to be Labour leader? She fits ideologically with the base of the party, and do you think Starmer will be the last white male Labour leader?

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labour is thw natural opposition party, if loss in 2024, 25 years in opposition is damning

It is one of the reasons why Blair is so agitated, when Labour was in the wilderness from 1979 to 1997, that was 18 years

Blair will see that there is a centrist wing that can take the party back, young Britons should be economically mobile by the 2030s......

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What is the British version of the Internal Revenue Service, the American taxman and is it reviled by the British commoners and taxpayers like how Americans hate paying taxes?

The U.S. Revolutionary War was created also because of King George's taxes.....

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the British commoners

 

The class system still exist. Commoners and nobility and royalty. That is the facts