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« on: July 20, 2016, 11:18:01 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 11:20:04 PM »

50 years ago the rich paid their taxes, the republican party funded education, infrastructure and put into place common sense regulations. I think the idea that they believe that taking the government out of our society is without merit in our own history. I think this generation is educated enough to understand this nations history and the corporatist in the extreme right don't like that.
You actually have to be responsible for your life, too. I don't know if most Americans want to pick up the tab. Government CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 11:24:29 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was talking about.
I'm not a Republican. I'm an Independent. One thing I admire about the GOP is they promote personal responsibility. Democrats dont.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 11:28:30 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past. Not every millennial loves America. I believe in climate change. I believe that the rich should pay taxes. But what I don't believe in is laziness and the blatant disrespect of the United States military.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 11:31:50 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley

Wow... and this is why "ignore" doesn't always work, 'cause when the stupid is that thick, it gets quoted. Actually, pretty sure the poster is just trolling...

Basically that whole post amounted to building an army of strawmen in order to then easily knock them down. Pretty easy to attack your political opponents when you completely misrepresent and fail to understand what they actually stand for, and instead invent a caricature that is so unreasonable as to be completely unbelievable.
I'm not a Republican. Never have been. I call both parties out. I'm just saying that millennials can't survive without gov't. They want government so bad. They don't want to grow up like adults and take some responsibility for their lives. You can't have government all the time.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2016, 11:36:57 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past.  

Did you see thousands of Millennials chanting and cheering down on 7/11?
Maybe the ones born from 1979-1981 in college that year. They're told by professors daily that America is the Satanic Empire. I know what I'm saying. Not every professor and millennial likes America.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 11:40:17 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley

Wow... and this is why "ignore" doesn't always work, 'cause when the stupid is that thick, it gets quoted. Actually, pretty sure the poster is just trolling...

Basically that whole post amounted to building an army of strawmen in order to then easily knock them down. Pretty easy to attack your political opponents when you completely misrepresent and fail to understand what they actually stand for, and instead invent a caricature that is so unreasonable as to be completely unbelievable.
I'm not a Republican. Never have been. I call both parties out. I'm just saying that millennials can't survive without gov't. They want government so bad. They don't want to grow up like adults and take some responsibility for their lives. You can't have government all the time.

I never said you were a Republican, so that's yet another strawman. I'm saying that your argument is BS because the premise is false. It's a strawman. You make up sh**tty generalizations based on your "feelings" or your anecdotes, and then rail against those false generalizations as if you're making a point. You're not.

And, back to ignore with you.
It doesn't have to be personal, Mallow. Come on. We're a family here.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 11:42:51 PM »
« Edited: July 20, 2016, 11:50:37 PM by bronz4141 »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past.  

Did you see thousands of Millennials chanting and cheering down on 7/11?
Maybe the ones born from 1979-1981 in college that year. They're told by professors daily that America is the Satanic Empire. I know what I'm saying. Not every professor and millennial likes America.
You have no evidence

"I know what I'm saying".
A lot of college students are taught to hate America and it's military. I criticize military adventures, but I don't blatantly disrespect the Armed Forces and demean it. Not all millennials are like that,  but some of them don't understand personal responsibility. No one should be living cradle to grave. It's not right. I want a government that respects my job, and financial outlook,  but I don't want government to put me to bed. I'm a big boy.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2016, 12:07:15 AM »

Just have to say, Millennials are losers, morons, addicting to their technology, enormous ego's, mooch off their parents well into their 30's. They're fragile and weak.

Good riddance. I mean Gen X looks like the freaking Greatest Generation compared to Millenials
Typical.

But true. I realize that sounds curmudgeonly but millennials are extremely coddled and naive. Is there still hope for them? Sure, but they definitely need a wake-up call.

It doesn't sound curmudgeonly, it sounds stupid and malinformed. It sounds like more faux generalizations based on personal feelings and anecdotes. It sounds like something that can't be backed up factually. And it sounds completely wrong.

Backed up factually? This cohort is still evolving. Millennials are not a math equation, but there are certain characteristics that they seem to share. It's generally agreed upon that they're liberal, politically correct, coddled, stay with their parents longer, have children later, are very attached to their technology and are extremely narcissistic.

To me personally, the typical millennial looks like an urban hipster. Just floating through life on their parents dime through whatever hip new urban area (is it still Portland?)
It's kind of true. I can't see any millennial standing up for America. They tear it down every single day.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2016, 11:27:04 AM »

I'm 28 years old. I'm not going to vote for a party that denies climate change exists, that thinks denying evolution exists is a reasonable position, and that doesn't support civil marriage for all.

Absolutely, I'm 30.  I can't EVER bring myself to vote for a party whose views on gender, sexuality, basic biology, and science sound consistently like something out of Medieval Europe.

The Republicans have indeed lost the millennials and one day they will pay and pay dearly for that loss.

I'm 39 (Gen-X-lite?) and I agree with all of the above.  It has nothing to do with being young.  It has to do with opening your eyes to a world outside your comfy, white, suburban/small-town bubble.

That said, my wife and nearly all of my friends are millennials.  They are some of the most ethical, compassionate, and motivated people I know.  They are the ones actually questioning our society's norms, dissecting them, and examining the injustices that result from those norms.  Things that make older people very, very uncomfortable.  They will change the country for the better.
Yeah, into white shaming. Are you ashamed of being white? Is whiteness a sin?
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 11:28:51 AM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past.  

Did you see thousands of Millennials chanting and cheering down on 7/11?
Maybe the ones born from 1979-1981 in college that year. They're told by professors daily that America is the Satanic Empire. I know what I'm saying. Not every professor and millennial likes America.

I'm incredibly unpatriotic, but that still doesn't mean that it's OK to kill thousands of innocent people in the name of...well, anything.

I find the assertion that you have to support a country's government in order to care about the lives of its citizens to be deeply offensive.
To a lot of millennials,  they justified 9/11 because it was white financial services professionals. Hardly any blacks or Latinos died there.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 11:32:21 AM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past. 

Did you see thousands of Millennials chanting and cheering down on 7/11?
Maybe the ones born from 1979-1981 in college that year. They're told by professors daily that America is the Satanic Empire. I know what I'm saying. Not every professor and millennial likes America.

I'm incredibly unpatriotic, but that still doesn't mean that it's OK to kill thousands of innocent people in the name of...well, anything.

I find the assertion that you have to support a country's government in order to care about the lives of its citizens to be deeply offensive.
To a lot of millennials,  they justified 9/11 because it was white financial services professionals. Hardly any blacks or Latinos died there.
How damn dumb are you.  Sick excuses for a human being. 
I'm talking the truth. There's a lot of white shaming going around in the Western world.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 11:39:37 AM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past. 

Did you see thousands of Millennials chanting and cheering down on 7/11?
Maybe the ones born from 1979-1981 in college that year. They're told by professors daily that America is the Satanic Empire. I know what I'm saying. Not every professor and millennial likes America.

I'm incredibly unpatriotic, but that still doesn't mean that it's OK to kill thousands of innocent people in the name of...well, anything.

I find the assertion that you have to support a country's government in order to care about the lives of its citizens to be deeply offensive.
To a lot of millennials,  they justified 9/11 because it was white financial services professionals. Hardly any blacks or Latinos died there.
How damn dumb are you.  Sick excuses for a human being. 
I'm talking the truth. There's a lot of white shaming going around in the Western world.

You're talking bull$*!t. You seem to have come up with a caricature of what you perceive the worst qualities of millennials to be and accepted it as the average Millennial.
I'm not a hater. I have to call out things when I see it. A lot of millennials are favoring outside enemies.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2016, 11:41:29 AM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley
Some of it is the truth. A lot of millennials believe America deserved terror because of the country's past. 

Did you see thousands of Millennials chanting and cheering down on 7/11?
Maybe the ones born from 1979-1981 in college that year. They're told by professors daily that America is the Satanic Empire. I know what I'm saying. Not every professor and millennial likes America.

I'm incredibly unpatriotic, but that still doesn't mean that it's OK to kill thousands of innocent people in the name of...well, anything.

I find the assertion that you have to support a country's government in order to care about the lives of its citizens to be deeply offensive.
To a lot of millennials,  they justified 9/11 because it was white financial services professionals. Hardly any blacks or Latinos died there.
How damn dumb are you.  Sick excuses for a human being. 
I'm not sick. I'm speaking the truth. Some millennials despise this country. Why they're allowed to serve in the military, is beyond me. I have to speak my mind.
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2016, 11:52:03 AM »

I'm talking the truth. There's a lot of white shaming going around in the Western world.
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Only the truth as you see it.  Maybe you're feeling guilty about something and can't admit it to yourself.  Maybe your one of those people that hide your racist feelings behind defending some bullsh**t fake attacks on your "people".
[/quote] I'm not a bigot. I don't do bigotry. You can't deny that white shaming exists.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2016, 11:58:52 AM »

I just don't trust some millennials. Some are good people. Its just that some of them are on the side of America's international enemies. Some of the colleges show it every day.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2016, 12:08:05 PM »

I'm not a troll. I have to speak up for this country when it's being torn down.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2016, 12:11:03 PM »

I'm talking the truth. There's a lot of white shaming going around in the Western world.

Only the truth as you see it.  Maybe you're feeling guilty about something and can't admit it to yourself.  Maybe your one of those people that hide your racist feelings behind defending some bullsh**t fake attacks on your "people".
I'm not a bigot. I don't do bigotry. You can't deny that white shaming exists.
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I can deny it, and I am denying it.  I'm white and don't feel it.  Maybe you do, and maybe it's because you feel guilty about something.
[/quote] President Obama and some Democrats do it a lot. I have to speak up for this country. It cannot continue to happen.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2016, 12:30:55 PM »

I'm not feeling well. I need to take a few hours off.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2016, 02:33:09 PM »

Millennials love government. They believe that government can do everything for them. Government can start your car. Need a job? Go sign and apply for a federal government job.
 Pregnant? Ask the government to fund for my child's diaper.  their sugar daddy. Without it, they can't survive in the real world. They don't know anything about self reliance. They think that abolishing capitalism, abolishing banks is a good thing, yet they use smartphones and cell phones. They think that America got what it deserved on 9/11 because America is "racist, sexist, imperalist, and too hyperpatriarchial. I know a LOT of millennials who believe America deserved 9/11. Of course the GOP may lose millennials. Once capitalism is abolished and we have more white shaming shows, we'll see what happens. We have millennials who want government to fund condoms and reparations. Of course millennials love government. Without it,  it shows how empty and talentless they are.

I love how absolutely clueless and condescending this argument is! Smiley

Wow... and this is why "ignore" doesn't always work, 'cause when the stupid is that thick, it gets quoted. Actually, pretty sure the poster is just trolling...

Basically that whole post amounted to building an army of strawmen in order to then easily knock them down. Pretty easy to attack your political opponents when you completely misrepresent and fail to understand what they actually stand for, and instead invent a caricature that is so unreasonable as to be completely unbelievable.

You mean like this?:
I'm 28 years old. I'm not going to vote for a party that denies climate change exists, that thinks denying evolution exists is a reasonable position, and that doesn't support civil marriage for all.

Both of these mischaracterize entire groups of people. Something like 45% of Republicans support SSM. A larger number wants civil unions. If you really, honestly, believe Trimp would ban SSM, you have another thing coming.

They put that the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman into their party platform...what the heck else are we supposed to go on?

I don't have a problem with SSM. I know a lot of people feel that millennials are disrespecting marriage in general, in the eyes of man and woman. I don't have a problem with it, but a lot of people see marriage being a joke and mocked right now. That's why marriage rates are at a 50-year low.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2016, 02:43:58 PM »

I'm talking the truth. There's a lot of white shaming going around in the Western world.

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell 911 has to do with race?  This is so bizarre.

Does anyone know this bronz4141 in real life?  Is he okay?  I don't want to just make fun of him if he is someone with serious stuff going on and needs help.

I'm feeling very, very ill. I need to take a breather.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2016, 03:49:59 PM »

I'm talking the truth. There's a lot of white shaming going around in the Western world.

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell 911 has to do with race?  This is so bizarre.

Does anyone know this bronz4141 in real life?  Is he okay?  I don't want to just make fun of him if he is someone with serious stuff going on and needs help.

I'm tired, I'm hungry..please God, help...
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2016, 04:49:18 PM »

I'm not feeling well. I need to take a few hours off.

Please leave and don't come back. Or go to Stormfront where you will find many supporters.

I am not a bigot. I'm an American. I have to speak up.
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