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Mr. Morden
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« on: September 18, 2016, 02:10:18 PM »

Priebus won't care about carrying water for Trump anymore on November 9th.  And if he did, there's nothing much he can do to "retaliate" against these guys.  Party chairs aren't that powerful.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 03:41:38 PM »

Priebus won't care about carrying water for Trump anymore on November 9th.  And if he did, there's nothing much he can do to "retaliate" against these guys.  Party chairs aren't that powerful.


He can probably strong-arm the rules committee into just about anything. They wouldn't dare go against the  party chair, probably.

I mean that he's not that powerful in the sense that he won't try to exercise his hypothetical power if he's not getting support from the rest of the RNC, and the rest of the RNC isn't going to be interested in pushing this too hard.  Neither will Priebus himself.  None of them will care about punishing these folks after November.  And what would the punishment even look like?  Rigging the next primary season to disadvantage folks like Cruz, Kasich, and Sasse?  What kind of rule change would even do that?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 06:43:04 PM »

Priebus could try to strongarm the state party into prohibiting them from being on the ballot in those states in 2020/24 (depending on whether Trump wins this year), or strongarm the rules committee into not seating any delegates awarded to said candidates from those states, or only seating half of such delegates - on the basis that such candidates gave a willful oath to the party that should have consequences if it is ever broken.

I would say there is zero chance of any of that happening.  It would look stupidly anti-democratic to try something like that--to basically disqualify candidates by fiat.  The information is out there....about the pledges that they broke.  Opposing candidates are free to use it against them.  If the voters don't care and vote for them anyway, then why should the party chairman overrule them?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 08:17:40 AM »

I would ask the Democrats here just how they would have felt if in 1976 the Democrats nominated a Democrat who, explicitly, refused to endorse George McGovern in 1972.

Probably similar to how they'd feel if the Democrats in 1976 had nominated someone who'd said that LBJ should have been impeached.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 09:53:18 AM »

Priebus could try to strongarm the state party into prohibiting them from being on the ballot in those states in 2020/24 (depending on whether Trump wins this year), or strongarm the rules committee into not seating any delegates awarded to said candidates from those states, or only seating half of such delegates - on the basis that such candidates gave a willful oath to the party that should have consequences if it is ever broken.

I would say there is zero chance of any of that happening.  It would look stupidly anti-democratic to try something like that--to basically disqualify candidates by fiat.  The information is out there....about the pledges that they broke.  Opposing candidates are free to use it against them.  If the voters don't care and vote for them anyway, then why should the party chairman overrule them?


Priebus's argument seems to be that the pledge should have meant something, so there has to be a consequence for breaking it. If someone rescinded the pledge before a given primary, there would likely have been a move to take them off the ballot in that state. But the primaries have happened, so the punishment has to be something else. I guess Cruz can just be removed from congressional committees, but Jebra and Kasich aren't in Congress.

I think any "punishment" should be left to the voters to decide.  Actually withholding delegates in a future presidential run by Cruz or Kasich, delegates that they would normally be awarded based on how many votes they get....it would look terrible.  And it's not going to happen, because no one's going to care about Trump or this pledge anymore in three years.*

* That is, assuming Trump loses this November.  If he wins, then he replaces Priebus at the RNC with his own cronies, and the "punishment" will be something more substantial than what's being contemplated here.
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