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AggregateDemand
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« on: March 26, 2014, 04:10:52 PM »

It doesn't matter what people think, except to the politicians whose jobs depend on winning popularity contests.

If healthcare costs don't come down substantially, we won't have any jobs left in this country.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 03:56:45 PM »

Implying Republicans have an alternative.

Refundable tax credits are too complicated for liberal brains?
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 06:13:53 PM »

No but apparently elementary economic concepts are too complex for Republicans like you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_selection

Your entire objection to Republican healthcare reform is your assumption that it will not require minimum levels of coverage?
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 06:19:55 PM »

I'm a mom like you. I like choices. And ObamaCare takes away my choices by giving me a healthcare marketplace where I can shop for a plan. And ObamaCare violates my constitutional rights because there's an enrollment deadline extension that makes it easier for me to get coverage. It's scary, really scary, especially now that my kids are protected as a part of my plan until age 26. We need to stop ObamaCare now, because America. And American flags, whom fly to honor our veterans. God bless veterans.

Also, Obama is from Kenya.

I'm a mom like you, and I approved this message.

Message paid for by Americans for Prosperity.

We already had healthcare marketplaces, and risk was pooled differently. The 40 year old mother was not forced to subsidize birth control for an 18 year old single woman. The 18 year old single woman was not covering prostate exams for the 60 year old man. The 60 year old man was not charged for maternity services for the 25 year old woman.

Obamacare is a convoluted cost shifting arrangement. You don't know whether you're the patsy until you sign up.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 01:00:10 AM »

Having a working healthcare marketplace pre-ObamaCare would be news to me.

The biggest online health insurance marketplace (eHealth) is based in California. It's publicly traded, and it's basically been around since I've had the net (late 90s). I'm self-employed so I've been shopping with them for years.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 10:29:23 PM »

Well, when something progressive gets pushed through, and we all get told the world is going to end, and then the world doesn't end...

Seems reasonable that the little peeps will all start cooling off about it a bit, eh? 

Dude, you need to look at the data. The US is crumbling. GDP growth is smaller than the trade deficit and the federal budget deficit. US healthcare spending per capita is 50% higher than any other nation.

By nature, human beings are designed to prefer slow, predictable death, and that's about all Obamacare can promise.

Most of the programs created by Democrats are so far beneath basic human dignity, it's astonishing they receive any votes.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 10:45:34 PM »

Well, Republicans are proposing no program at all, which is literally underground on the dignity level.

Republicans have proposed economic revolution, and we've discussed the possibility of adverse selection on several occasions. Perhaps the biggest problem with refundable tax credits is that they give the government a reason to raise healthcare costs to raise federal revenue. Perverse incentives for government bureaucrats could be worse than perverse incentives for consumers in our current system.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 11:27:50 AM »

The individual code is not full of loopholes. The richest Americans pay low tax rates because they don't earn income. They earn unrealized capital gains. When they realize gains, tax rates are lower because capital gains is a time-value proposition.

The corporate tax system is full of loopholes because taxing income at the corporate level is an inefficient waste of time. Double taxation of dividends has eliminated cash dividends in the US, which has undermined the US tax base.
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