What do you find immoral?

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Abortion
Death Penalty
Polygamy
EMBRYONIC stem cell research
Human cloning

Abortion should be legal, but it's a major moral compromise

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Give me one good reason why you believe this.

Straight men everywhere refuse to put their peckers up another man's backside, if given the opportunity. I'd argue that an overwhelming number of straight men think male homosexuality is morally-wrong.

The problems begin when people refuse to accept the possibility of homosexual orientation, and they try to make society live according to their narrow-minded views.

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I'm sure a lot of straight men think it's gross. But gross doesn't equal immoral...

You're assuming that morality is more than a knee-jerk reaction. Dubious assumption in this day and age.

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What the hell is going on with people claiming suicide is immoral? What kind of rationale are these votes based on? This is utterly ridiculous.

I can think of instances when it would be immoral. If you got a divorce, for instance, and you were ordered to pay alimony and child support, but you abdicated your responsibility and blew your head off.

If suicide is an act of irresponsible self-pity, I can see how people would say it's immoral. However, I wouldn't say suicide is immoral in general.

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Well, that's orthogonal to the point at hand.  What if I said the same thing about having brown hair?  "I don't mind working with brown haired people, after all, we're all sinners and I forgive them for having brown hair." 

Brown hair is an immutable characteristic. Having sex with people of your own gender is not. I'm not defending bigotry, only pointing out that immutable characteristics vs. personal choice is the underlying legal complication in same-sex rights and so forth.

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Homosexuality is immutable. Should gay people all be celibate? Furthermore, why is having gay sex immoral in and of itself?

It's not a matter of celibacy. It's about maintaining differentiation between sexual orientation and sexual action, which was an important development to bring us out of the dark ages of relationship law.

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No.  I'm fine with people having naturally brown hair, if that's how God made them.  But, it's immoral for them to choose to grow brown hair of their own choice.  They can easily shave their hair or dye it another color so it's not an abomination before God.  That's easier than choosing to live a life without sex or intimate relations.  Am I right?

No, you're not right. But the law recognizes your right to make the distinction between orientation and action. It should remain that way, even if it complicates matters.

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I guess that's true in some sense.  But, neither gay sex nor gay orientation are immoral.  And gay sex is fundamental right under the US Constitution.  So, it's a frivolous point.

If you try to think of counterarguments to the discriminatory hypothetical argument you made, it's difficult to find a legal remedy within the current framework or to imagine a new legal remedy. The easy way is to say that sexual orientation = sexual behavior; therefore, immutable characteristic and strict scrutiny. However, treating sexual orientation as an immutable characteristic opens a Pandora's box by undermining the current system.

That's why legal progress is slow and deliberate. That's my only point.