Beth Fukumoto switching parties

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Someday the moderates in the Hawaii Democratic Party are going to become Republicans.  After the Northern Strategy phase is over the GOP will be competitive there again.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Someday the moderates in the Hawaii Democratic Party are going to become Republicans.  After the Northern Strategy phase is over the GOP will be competitive there again.

Not sure. They have no stimulus for that. Just as Southern conservatives win nothing now from becoming Democrats, or Massachusetts (or Rhode Island or Vermont) moderates - from becoming Republicans. It's much more profitable for southern conservatives to remain Republicans, and for Massachusetts (and other) moderates - Democrats. The same in Hawaii

The Democratic Party will eventually move too far left and will alienate the moderate Democrats in Hawaii.

For the record, I'm predicting this to happen after 2040.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Someday the moderates in the Hawaii Democratic Party are going to become Republicans.  After the Northern Strategy phase is over the GOP will be competitive there again.

Not sure. They have no stimulus for that. Just as Southern conservatives win nothing now from becoming Democrats, or Massachusetts (or Rhode Island or Vermont) moderates - from becoming Republicans. It's much more profitable for southern conservatives to remain Republicans, and for Massachusetts (and other) moderates - Democrats. The same in Hawaii

The Democratic Party will eventually move too far left and will alienate the moderate Democrats in Hawaii.

For the record, I'm predicting this to happen after 2040.

And Republican - move too far to the right to alienate relatively moderate Republicans in South Carolina??

I doubt it.  After Republicans realize the Northern Strategy was a bad idea, they will drop the anti-immigration rhetoric and will be more inclusive in some respects.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Someday the moderates in the Hawaii Democratic Party are going to become Republicans.  After the Northern Strategy phase is over the GOP will be competitive there again.

Not sure. They have no stimulus for that. Just as Southern conservatives win nothing now from becoming Democrats, or Massachusetts (or Rhode Island or Vermont) moderates - from becoming Republicans. It's much more profitable for southern conservatives to remain Republicans, and for Massachusetts (and other) moderates - Democrats. The same in Hawaii

The Democratic Party will eventually move too far left and will alienate the moderate Democrats in Hawaii.

For the record, I'm predicting this to happen after 2040.

And Republican - move too far to the right to alienate relatively moderate Republicans in South Carolina??

I doubt it.  After Republicans realize the Northern Strategy was a bad idea, they will drop the anti-immigration rhetoric and will be more inclusive in some respects.

Most dropped the anti-Immigration Rhetoric after 2014 except for Trump. What is the Northern Strategy anyway? Its not like Republican Presidential Candidates are going to be winning a lot of Northeastern States anytime soon.

The Northern Strategy involves dropping traditional social issues and becoming populist.  The idea is that immigrants are eternal enemies of the GOP, and that instead of minority outreach, Republicans need to appeal to white Democrats.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Someday the moderates in the Hawaii Democratic Party are going to become Republicans.  After the Northern Strategy phase is over the GOP will be competitive there again.

Not sure. They have no stimulus for that. Just as Southern conservatives win nothing now from becoming Democrats, or Massachusetts (or Rhode Island or Vermont) moderates - from becoming Republicans. It's much more profitable for southern conservatives to remain Republicans, and for Massachusetts (and other) moderates - Democrats. The same in Hawaii

The Democratic Party will eventually move too far left and will alienate the moderate Democrats in Hawaii.

For the record, I'm predicting this to happen after 2040.

And Republican - move too far to the right to alienate relatively moderate Republicans in South Carolina??

I doubt it.  After Republicans realize the Northern Strategy was a bad idea, they will drop the anti-immigration rhetoric and will be more inclusive in some respects.

Most dropped the anti-Immigration Rhetoric after 2014 except for Trump. What is the Northern Strategy anyway? Its not like Republican Presidential Candidates are going to be winning a lot of Northeastern States anytime soon.

The Northern Strategy involves dropping traditional social issues and becoming populist.  The idea is that immigrants are eternal enemies of the GOP, and that instead of minority outreach, Republicans need to appeal to white Democrats.

Well you want to appeal to some White Democrats so that isn't a bad idea.

Of course it's not a bad idea, but that was almost exclusively what Trump did.  As SATW said, it worked this time but eventually it will stop working.

I'm going to create a thread explaining exactly what the Northern Strategy is sometime.