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« on: January 02, 2004, 12:59:36 PM »

The election would probably have been pushed into the House and Clinton would have won it there.   I think we still had the majority in Congress back then...the good old days...
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2004, 06:40:16 PM »

The election would probably have been pushed into the House and Clinton would have won it there.   I think we still had the majority in Congress back then...the good old days...

But there is the state delegations that vote right? Did the Dems have that, or just a majority of representatives?
I think the house votes in the event of no electoral majority.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2004, 06:46:31 PM »

The election would probably have been pushed into the House and Clinton would have won it there.   I think we still had the majority in Congress back then...the good old days...

But there is the state delegations that vote right? Did the Dems have that, or just a majority of representatives?
I think the house votes in the event of no electoral majority.

Yes, but thi was discussed on a previous thread, and it was stated that a majority of the 50 House delegations is required, not a majority of the 435 congressmen.
Oh.  I would imaigne the Dems still would have pulled it out though..
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2004, 07:37:17 PM »

I don't think that was true in 1992.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2004, 10:03:04 PM »

I really don't think that Ross Perot would have carried any states, even if he hadn't dropped out and returned to the race in 1992.

US politics is generally geared in the direction of realism, and I think his support would have fallen away in any case as the election approached, because people would think that a vote for him was wasted since he couldn't win.

That was a strange election year, marked by an incumbent who had run out of ideas and seemed like a deer in the headlights, and a Democratic challenger of highly dubious character and integrity.  So for a lot of people (including me), these were not attractive choices, but I still don't believe that Ross Perot could have won a whole slew of states as some people have suggested.  At most, he might have won around 3 states out west, like Montana, with Clinton still winning the election overall.

But that's just my opinion.  We'll never know for sure.
He was an inch away from carrying Maine after he re-entered, so he would have won it if he had not fooled around.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2004, 12:56:05 PM »

Actually Perot did finish 2nd in Utah as well as in Maine, but he was still far behind Bush in Utah.
Maine was Perot's best chance, especially since he could have at least won one electoral vote by winning the northern of the 2 Maine Congressional Districts. I remember on election night that this one electoral vote was still undecided for much of the night, and pundits were suggesting that Perot could win that one electoral vote.
Yeah, I remember that too.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2004, 06:22:22 PM »

When did Maine and NE adopt the split of EV strategy?  




I really don't think that Ross Perot would have carried any states, even if he hadn't dropped out and returned to the race in 1992.

US politics is generally geared in the direction of realism, and I think his support would have fallen away in any case as the election approached, because people would think that a vote for him was wasted since he couldn't win.

That was a strange election year, marked by an incumbent who had run out of ideas and seemed like a deer in the headlights, and a Democratic challenger of highly dubious character and integrity.  So for a lot of people (including me), these were not attractive choices, but I still don't believe that Ross Perot could have won a whole slew of states as some people have suggested.  At most, he might have won around 3 states out west, like Montana, with Clinton still winning the election overall.

But that's just my opinion.  We'll never know for sure.
He was an inch away from carrying Maine after he re-entered, so he would have won it if he had not fooled around.
I don't know.  It only works with small states, though.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2004, 12:37:56 PM »

One of them adopted their's in 1991 (I think it was NE, not positive thoguh)
The other did somewhat before then.
However, neither has ever split theirs in this manner.
Maine has come close twice though.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2004, 12:50:23 PM »

One of them adopted their's in 1991 (I think it was NE, not positive thoguh)
The other did somewhat before then.
However, neither has ever split theirs in this manner.
Maine has come close twice though.

It's on this site...

Maine was in 1969, NE in 1991.
Oh.  We look everywhere, and we're staring right at it!
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2004, 05:04:17 PM »

It is very unrealistic.  And, I got lost in the middle of it too.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2004, 05:19:41 PM »

How did Perot double his PV total?  that's unrealistic, and I don't understand where he jumped from 19% to 37% so easily.
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