PA: The Second amendment act.

[Cranberry]

I stated my opposition to this as an amendment already in the main thread, but again, I urge the council to vote against this! As I said, I guess I would have no probelm with it as a law, but there is no place for this in our constitution!

[Cranberry]

Councillors a vote on this amendment is now open. AYE

Lol


Regarding your "thing" Simfan, "the name that was first given too" is I guess the most wooly euphemism for "traditional marriages" as you would call them, and I don't think (and hope) that it would have had absolutely no legal consequences, despite your blatant opposition to "non-traditional" marriages of any kind, to say it that way.

[Cranberry]

Good to hear that this was not your intention.

I am personally opposed to both polygamy and incest, yet I just don't like that in the constitution. It's just, the constitution is part of our democracy, and I don't feel this should be part of it...
Sorry for the short answer, I'm waiting for the bus...

[Cranberry]

Sorry for the short answer yesterday, here are my two cents:

I feel that our constitution is a sacral, the main part of our democracy; the very thing that defines the People's Region, that makes us the People's Region. The People's Region is that way because we define the People's Region, through our constitution. So in short, in some way, we define us through our constitution.
On the other hand, for me this bill has no place in the constitution. We in no way define us through not allowing incestous or polygamous marriages. This is not a question of whether we should allow this or not; but rather of if we should define us partly through not allowing those kinds of marriages. I don't think they should be allowed, yes, but I far more strongly think that we should keep our constitution untouched of this, as I don't want us to define ourselves through that.

[Cranberry]

If you want, pass it as a law. At best, I would not see this topic dealt with, we don't allow it to start with, but pass it as a law if you feel to do so. I won't oppose it as a law; I will continue to oppose it as a Pacific citizen as a constitutional amendment.